Look 585

[dave thompson]

Originally Posted by picstloup

I wonder if you know the difference good or bad between the older 11 speed and the newer 12 speed. I can find both for around 1000 euros. I mean 'more' always sounds better, but often it is just more and not really better.

and a short ps...i've found a front derailleur hanger that should work, but wonder what people who have these frames use...the one i found is a generic kinda thing...i wonder if campy makes 'em, shimano?...maybe someone who designs them so they are efficient and not too likely to damage the seat tube...

thanks
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Use whatever is the correct size for the frame and for brand of front derailleur you plan to utilize.

[RiderR]

http://cyclaffaires.fr/produit/585-pro-team/
https://www.troc-velo.com/cadre-cadr...-1-2704733.htm

[Johnnysmooth]

Just took out my Look 595 after about a yr of it sitting on trainer. Riding Reynolds DV46-UL tubulars the bike reminded me of all the reasons I got it in first place. Quick, stiff and just a tad twitchy, which was perfect for racing.

Yes, it is not a 585, but pretty darn close.

Not racing anymore and have a C60 as the ride you'll usually find me on. The reason I went back to Colnago was the desire to have a more relaxed, predictable, stable ride. It doesn't have that twitch and quick jump but it is a magic carpet ride of a bike.

Interesting to note, both are externally lugged, finely crafted.

I love them both but for completely different reasons.

[Tim Porter]

Great thread, makes me want a Look! If you can find the right one, a Serotta Mei Vici or HSG can be a great lugged carbon bike.

[Robot870]

Damn! That's extremely nice!!!!!!!

[weisan]

Originally Posted by Tim Porter

Great thread, makes me want a Look! If you can find the right one, a Serotta Mei Vici or HSG can be a great lugged carbon bike.

Tim pal, every bike of yours is like mona lisa, from an aesthetic standpoint, you got full points.

[Tim Porter]

Originally Posted by weisan

Tim pal, every bike of yours is like mona lisa, from an aesthetic standpoint, you got full points.

Thanks, Weisan-pal!

[saab2000]

I’m not looking for anything at the moment, but if a Meivici or HSG in VGC or NOS in 57 became available I’d have a hard time saying no. Those were real head turners.

[Jeckel30]

Originally Posted by saab2000

I’m not looking for anything at the moment, but if a Meivici or HSG in VGC or NOS in 57 became available I’d have a hard time saying no. Those were real head turners.

I have a Meivici that I have been too lazy to post up for sale. Maybe slightly big but here is the geometry.

[RiderR]

Tim - wow. Beautiful.

[saab2000]

Originally Posted by Jeckel30

I have a Meivici that I have been too lazy to post up for sale. Maybe slightly big but here is the geometry.

Thanks! I think there were a few made with shorter head tubes and that’s what I’d be looking for. I’m mostly a level top tube guy. The HGS had some too.

[AllesWirdGut]

Originally Posted by Tim Porter

Great thread, makes me want a Look! If you can find the right one, a Serotta Mei Vici or HSG can be a great lugged carbon bike.

Damn! Any idea what that color is?

[Hawker]

Mr. Porter,
Whew! Great looking ride and I love the color! I presume this is a deep burgundy and not brown? Man that is sweet, thanks for the post.

[Tim Porter]

The color is definitely a burgundy, not a brown, though in some light it can look brown. Serotta called it Tempranillo, like the Spanish grape/wine.

[picstloup]

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It's like the seller said. Came with full headset. Sent in a Giant box. There was a black canvas bag with headset, 30mm of look spacers, brake nut (i think for the fork), even had a guarantee card, look stickers, manual for headset, wheels installation, and a small color brochure with all of looks products way back when...

cable guide under bottom bracket has a very small black tube in it where the front derailleur cable goes...i guess this helps prevent friction on the frame?...it's really small/narrow, but i guess the cable goes through it...there isn't one for the rear derailleur, but it doesn't look like it needs one there...

gonna have to do a dry run of fork install with headset...it's weird there's no bottom plastic washer or something to keep dust from getting into bottom of head tube, but it may make more sense when I piece it together...

if things look 'weird' or not right in any sense I'll bring it to a shop to have them install it...but the manual shows just the bearing thrust ring and lower bearing into the head tube and the fork sliding right into that...

was happy to see the 'elusive' bearing thrust rings already installed in top and bottom of head tube...headset also has 4 extremely thin spacers, at first i thought it was one 1mm spacer, but the grease they applied all those years ago stuck it together, and it slid apart on closer inspection...

ok, i guess that's it for now...thanks to you all for the help on this i appreciate it...waiting on build parts to come...oh, decided on chorus 12 speed (despite really not liking the look/design of the crank set)...hoping i like it better in person...it'll be a few weeks before it's built and ready to go...

because of health problems, age, and a long time off the bike I went with the new and smaller 32-48 chain rings...see how that goes...figure i can always buy 34/50 down the road if it doesn't 'feel' right...

but did two spins on my old Tommaso this week and it felt great and man, I am happy to get back on the road...running campagnolo 8 speed ergo from about 1994...still works...i think i need new brake pads on her...gearing a bit difficult, i've got a 39/51 with 12/26 in back...could be 13/26,...it was hard for me getting up the small climbs in the area around my house...so I think the easier gearing is the right way to go on the new ride...

short ps...when first seeing the frame on the internet I really didn't like the dark frame, but damn, no paint, just the silver/black of the carbon fiber under the clear coat and the minimal look of the decals looks really nice in person...