OT - Dow plunges 1,175 - worst point decline in history

[fa63]

Originally Posted by Davist

Most projections show population stabilizing in the next 10-20 years then declining after that. You must have liked the Avengers End Game movie..

Not quite in 10-20 years, but it is expected to stabilize indeed:

[Davist]

Originally Posted by fa63

Not quite in 10-20 years, but it is expected to stabilize indeed:

Wikipedia (yes, I know) was what came up first and it showed 2040, so went with that, but yes..

[oldpotatoe]

But yeegads, throw in climate change(it's a hoax!), a few wars here and there, a couple 'o pandemics..some guys sitting in the big chairs who think it's always about $, his bribers, 'European culture' and not about the 'little guy'..

Our grandkid's kids are gonna see a world like Soylent green and unless there is some sort of worldwide calamity that FORCES people to get their collective heads outta their collective bums, quality of life isn't going to be pretty.

[joosttx]

This is the stufff I grappled with as well as the day to day of running a business. What technologies would feed this population.

[Elefantino]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

[Davist]

Originally Posted by joosttx

This is the stufff I grappled with as well as the day to day of running a business. What technologies would feed this population.

really? Food is already being grown in abundance, but 40% or so is spoiled along the way to market. Supply chain is the tech to solve this and is improving greatly yoy (just look at how "addicted" we are to Amazon prime and the one day deliveries even on Sunday) can be extended broadly (Amazon retail, to keep on theme) in population centers. Urbanization is a trend that will increase moving forward and supports this "prime" type of model. Look at primary and second tier cities in India, where Amazon is rolling out and vastly changing lives.

[jimcav]

It was pretty educational and slightly scary for me. Seeing them go through both the ice core and rock records of the last time the planet had over 400 ppm CO2, and what that environment was--well i really hope the science will be there to get our crops to feed the masses in those conditions. From what they went over, the feedback loop is already in progress to keep driving CO2 up, yet because it isn't an imminent (enough) "today" threat, we aren't doing enough to stop it. I don't know how to make that an investment plan...but I wish enough nations and billionaires saw the profit in taking more decisive action for the next generation(s).

[joosttx]

Originally Posted by Davist

really? Food is already being grown in abundance, but 40% or so is spoiled along the way to market. Supply chain is the tech to solve this and is improving greatly yoy (just look at how "addicted" we are to Amazon prime and the one day deliveries even on Sunday) can be extended broadly (Amazon retail, to keep on theme) in population centers. Urbanization is a trend that will increase moving forward and supports this "prime" type of model. Look at primary and second tier cities in India, where Amazon is rolling out and vastly changing lives.

Yes, I would say we are doing a good job and producing enough food now.

[Ozz]

Sam Kinison on world hunger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKNoJ2BzSRU

may be offensive to some....

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Davist

really? Food is already being grown in abundance, but 40% or so is spoiled along the way to market. Supply chain is the tech to solve this and is improving greatly yoy (just look at how "addicted" we are to Amazon prime and the one day deliveries even on Sunday) can be extended broadly (Amazon retail, to keep on theme) in population centers. Urbanization is a trend that will increase moving forward and supports this "prime" type of model. Look at primary and second tier cities in India, where Amazon is rolling out and vastly changing lives.

Food isn't going to be the problem, water is....

[jimcav]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Food isn't going to be the problem, water is....

or lack of fresh water? We have the tech to desalinate. Many ways, heck every submarine in the fleet does it. Seeing the NOVA episode where they showed the last time the CO2 was this high and the beach was 90 MILES inland from the current VA coast--wow, and all of FL submerged.

[Burnette]

A dip or even an outright correction would be timely, whatever the cause. If the P/E ratio comes more inline it would only add fuel to the market that is chugging along.

It's early but indicators point to growth, albeit lower than last year's high. 401k is on track, stay the course.

[Davist]

Originally Posted by jimcav

or lack of fresh water? We have the tech to desalinate. Many ways, heck every submarine in the fleet does it. Seeing the NOVA episode where they showed the last time the CO2 was this high and the beach was 90 MILES inland from the current VA coast--wow, and all of FL submerged.

huge desalinization projects in the Gulf states as well. The real scarcity for general use may be river sand for concrete. meanwhile where's the DJIA?.. https://www.wired.com/2015/03/illegal-sand-mining/

[jimcav]

Originally Posted by Davist

huge desalinization projects in the Gulf states as well. The real scarcity for general use may be river sand for concrete. meanwhile where's the DJIA?.. https://www.wired.com/2015/03/illegal-sand-mining/

had no idea--thanks for posting. I read not long ago a company was given rights to go through old mines' tailings to look for lithium. for example an old borax mine, done when they had no clue about lithium, so they'll now sift through all the tailings for overlooked lithium versus doing a brand new dig/mine. maybe they can get sand the same way by using leftovers from old mines--stick it in a wind driven tumblers with water to make new sand over the years.

[veloduffer]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Food isn't going to be the problem, water is....

Food could be a problem as well. Higher temps will affect crops, coupled with topsoil erosion and nutrient depletion of soil, there may be less arable land. Other food risks include dependance on monoculture crops (bananas), declining pollination from bees and birds, drought, wildfire, etc.