Moots CRD

[Philster]

Originally Posted by charlieclick

Surely this is the most elegant 'no wires' execution. I don't know why Stelbel is the only one doing it nicely.

As with everything from Stelbel, this is beautiful. But based on their description, I can't see how you can easily change stems or the number of spacers. It's probably a mistake, but I'm constantly experimenting with fit.

[jmr_santa_fe]

I happened to see one (i.e. the Vamoots CRD) in person at a bike shop today.

Kind of a good news/bad news situation. The good news is that it looks better in person. The bad news is that I think the traditional Moots Ti stem with external cables and the more conventional Chris King headset looks better, especially with newer SRAM or Shimano Di2 that only has two brake hoses.

I should note the new thin seat stays look nice, as with the curved bridge near where they meet the seatpost.

I agree with others that Moots is a bit behind brands like No 22, who have a cleaner solution.

A bit more tire clearance (e.g. 35mm instead of 32mm) would be helpful for the CRD. Rims like Enve and Zipp, with wide internal diameters, means that a "32" is more like a 35 once inflated. So with the CRD, the result is that you are most likely limited to 30mm tires as they will easily get to 32mm on many modern premium carbon wheels.

All that said, it was pretty cool in person. The price is a bit nuts, even for a Moots, but I think it will grow on people, especially their core base of loyal fans.

[HappyOn2Wheels]

Some pics of my CRD.

[Matt92037]

I had many of beers in the closed brewery in the background of your pics. Nice bike BTW!

[Spdntrxi]

hmmm. nice and looks my size

[Matthew]

That is a great looking bike. Love it. Ride report please!

[HappyOn2Wheels]

Originally Posted by Matt92037

I had many of beers in the closed brewery in the background of your pics. Nice bike BTW!

Never had the pleasure but I do enjoy the Flower Pot!

Originally Posted by Spdntrxi

hmmm. nice and looks my size

Thanks. It’s a 50cm.

Originally Posted by Matthew

That is a great looking bike. Love it. Ride report please!

Thanks! It’s my first Ti bike so I don’t have a lot to compare it to but the ride is awesome - drastically different from the only bike I’ve had for the last couple of years (Pinarello Grevil) - duh…. I traded weight and aero for ride feel and longevity and so far have no regrets.

[John H.]

What kind of weight did your bike come in at? With pedals and cages.

Originally Posted by HappyOn2Wheels

Never had the pleasure but I do enjoy the Flower Pot!



Thanks. It’s a 50cm.



Thanks! It’s my first Ti bike so I don’t have a lot to compare it to but the ride is awesome - drastically different from the only bike I’ve had for the last couple of years (Pinarello Grevil) - duh…. I traded weight and aero for ride feel and longevity and so far have no regrets.

[HappyOn2Wheels]

Originally Posted by John H.

What kind of weight did your bike come in at? With pedals and cages.

Cages, pedals, and Assioma Duo Shi power meter spindles it’s at 19/lbs (maybe a shade lighter since I switched to a lighter saddle w/ Ti vs. manganese rails).

[uber]

Originally Posted by John H.

What kind of weight did your bike come in at? With pedals and cages.

Just got mine a couple of days ago. 16.5 without pedals. Really enjoying it so far.

[jmr_santa_fe]

Originally Posted by uber

Just got mine a couple of days ago. 16.5 without pedals. Really enjoying it so far.

Any thoughts now that you've had it for a bit of time?

[uber]

After two seasons on the CRD I’m completely happy with it and would not have changed anything. Super happy with the ride quality, the understated industrial Moots aesthetic, the build and fit. Happy to answer more specific questions and feel free to PM or email me.
Best!!

[jmr_santa_fe]

Thanks for the reply, I am glad to hear you like it. Long story short, a few years back I had the Vamoots Disc RSL, sold it, and am looking at a Moots road model again.

Sorry for the dumb question but I cannot see how to send a PM?

In the meantime some of my basic questions:

1) Any issues with the cables rattling/rubbing/making noise?

2) Thoughts on how it rides compared to other Moots or metal bikes?

3) Tire clearance ... I know it's officially 32mm, what tires are you running on what rim ID and how well does it fit?

Thanks again!

[uber]

Hey there. If you click on my name (Uber) next to the green dot, a menu will drop down and you can choose private message or email. Let me know if that doesn’t work.
I can’t compare the ride of this bike to your Vamoots RSL, but I can’t imagine it’s that different. There is no cable rub or rattle, but I’m using wireless SRAM, so it’s only brake cables. I’ve had several Speedvagens, Pegoretti’s an Eriksen road bike and some off road Moots frames too. There is likely lots of nuance in tire size and wheel choice so I can’t compare isolated frame experiences. My Eriksen was super stiff and not as enjoyable as the CRD. I think the CRD is pretty close to my Peg Marcelo, and a bit stiffer than the Speedvagens. I’m running Princeton 6560’s with Vittoria 28’s and now 30mm tires. Plenty of room. I don’t have a desire for 32’s (yet).
I took a hard look at No.22, Bastion, Baum and Argonaut before deciding on the CRD. I made the right decision for me and have zero lust for another road bike after two years. That last observation is subject to change on a moment’s notice. Please reach out if you think you can stand more info from me.
Best,
Bill