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Not to mention, they could have at least checked their grammar / spelling before putting this out there...

Rise demand -- guess they meant to say "Rise in demand" or "Rising demand"
Tourism is misspelled
What does "Market Segment by Men" mean?

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I am not, but I wish them luck. They make nice wheels and are good to their customers.

This global market forecast seems a bit rosy.
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Not to mention, they could have at least checked their grammar / spelling before putting this out there...

Rise demand -- guess they meant to say "Rise in demand" or "Rising demand"
Tourism is misspelled
What does "Market Segment by Men" mean?
Well, they did at least get "enviornmental" correct.

That's a tough one to get right.
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"Two International locations to cover three contenants" How about continents
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Well, they did at least get "enviornmental" correct.

That's a tough one to get right.
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Raising capital to pursue aggressive growth goals in the bicycle business is not a great idea right now IMO.

I don't know anything about running a business, but if I operated a small to medium sized biz, I would be doing just the opposite right now. Head down, focus on managing expenses and keeping the core business healthy.

I suppose ENVE did basically what BOYD is attempting to do?

I wish them luck!
Gotta agree...Wheelsouttaboxes Market VERY crowded with some really big players involved..Like Campagnolo, Fulcrum, Zipp, others.

Plus the bike market due to Post Covid is really slumping right now...
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Not to mention, they could have at least checked their grammar / spelling before putting this out there...

Rise demand -- guess they meant to say "Rise in demand" or "Rising demand"
Tourism is misspelled
What does "Market Segment by Men" mean?
Misspelled "Environmental" too..ooopsie. Not a good look...
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I'm certainly not as knowledgeable as other forum posters, and I didn't sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Even with those handicaps, I know that raising capital to pay off current obligations is a big red flag. Best wishes to Boyd, but I'll pass on this investment opportunity.

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It gets better. On pg. 38 is this doozy of a statement re: dividend payments to shareholders of Munich Composite

If I'm not mistaken, "Munich Composites" refers to the recently established company, and it would appear that 1.34 M preferred A shares in Munich Composite were issued (none currently owned by Boyd), with the possibility of issuing another 0.96 M preferred A shares to reach the 2.3 M shares mentioned on pg. 38. If my calculations are correct, that's a dividend yield of 29% per annum, or about 10x what S&P 500 provides.

And it would appear from pp. 10-11 that quite a bit of the aim of the issuance of common shares in Boyd is for Boyd to purchase preferred A shares in Munich Composite (specifically, the 0.96 M preferred A shares that can be subsequently issued). Boyd's own statement on pg. 38 confirms as much re: effects of the dividend.

Who wants to be the schmuck who ponies up money to buy common shares, so that a good portion of it go toward dividend payment? Without both the onerous (pretty much Boyd's own words) dividend payment and what seems to be a move to benefit Boyd itself, I could see value of investing in common shares to gain market share. But what's contained in this disclosure really leads to some unpleasant implications.

Way too rich for my blood. If I had money to burn (subjunctive mood emphasized), I might consider loaning them money (say $7500 worth) with a warrant to convert the amount loaned into those sweet Class A shares in Munich Composite. Still risky, but not nearly as much buying common shares in Boyd Cycling.
Nice finds there. That is indeed some expensive money and multiple layers of ownership.

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Only if you want to ensure your investment loses value. It would shock me if enough aluminum tubulars, globally, rim and disc, were sold between now and eternity to use up a minimum run of the extrusion.
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This. I ran tubulars exclusively for 20 plus years. The problem is there is a lack of tire selection for tubulars and prices have gone through the roof. I've just bought 2 pairs of BTLOS wheels.
I prefer the carbon variety for tubulars. I use aluminum wheels for clinchers and poor weather.

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You don't need to be an investor to do that. They do still make rim brake tubulars. I'm rolling on a few pairs of them and as a Boyd dealer, I have built up several sets for my customers this year.
Good to know!

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Off the top of my head, the only obvious OEM opportunity would be Time Bicycles, which are also producing out of South Carolina. But I don't know if they do enough volume to substantially improve Boyd's sales. Maybe Lynskey or Litespeed too? But also not clear what's stopping them from tapping that channel now.
TIME bicycles, if I'm not mistaken, is also associated with or was bought by Cardinal Cycling Group, Inc. Seeing how they are very much involved here financially, perhaps Boyd wheels will be making their way to complete TIME bicycles for sale in the near future? Agree on the volume though, I don't see a ton of TIMEs out there in the wild and I regularly ride a Scylon.
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