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Do the cranks stay in one piece and retain the chainrings?
I think that's the bar for a groupset to be considered as an alternative to Shimano right now. I had like my 4th incident this season with Shimano cranks today, this time with the brand new D/A cranks I bought to replace the recalled cranks they said were "OK". |
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Ha -- I guess ya gotta pay a premium if you want that added functionality. |
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I’ve mostly settled on Shimano, but watching those dinks on the video made me want to run out and buy SR.
Maybe I’ll let them know in the comments that (I) Campy/Fulcrum wheels are exceptional, (II) that’s not where you place the lever on a modern handlebar, and (iii) [deleted, not constructive]. |
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dont be silly. campagnolo is italian. it'd be called super fantastico record.
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I started with Campagnolo in 1984 and have used almost nothing else since then. Still do. I’m very fortunate in that I could stretch to Super Record WRL if I chose to. With each passing season racing being potentially my last, and being well back in the field I’ve chosen not to so far.
For as long as giving groupsets to YouTubers and influencers, whatever they are, passes for marketing that’ll remain the case. The only marketing I want to see from Campagnolo is supporting men’s and women’s World Tour teams, on the road at least. It’s about credibility and the refinement and continuous improvement that such exposure brings. |
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Been on Campy since the early 80's chorus & record too & all I have to say is as prices went ever upwards I tried the less expensive groups like Athena, Potenza, Centaur & have to say I often wondered.... why I would need more?
I have actually come to prefer the single shifts of Potenza mainly because of the drooped thumb lever being so comfy while on the hoods or in the drops. The one downside I would say to their lower priced groups is the crankset.Not that there is anything functionally wrong with them but they do weigh a bit much. On a Potenza group I have been running since 2019 I changed out the crank which was 809 grams for a H11 cranks which is only 636 grams for a 173 gr savings! Ok that H11 crank is a sleeper in how it is as light as a Super Record at a fraction of the price But yes all that aside today if I were buying another Campy "road" group it would be Centaur or Chorus rim of course I have no interest in the bleeding edge wireless, disc stuff |
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Electronic Shimano groupsets on sale, priced in GBP: 800 - 105 Di2 1300 - Ultegra Di2 2100 - Dura Ace Di2 Super Record S is 3000 Campag is ignoring nearly everyone in every country in Europe with it's lack of store presence, and especially the corresponding pain in finding parts, or anyone knowledgeable on servicing. 1. It's barely possible to find a physical shop in the UK that stocks anything Campy at all. 2. It's next to impossible to get parts like axle adapters for fulcrum / campy wheelsets in a sensible, reliable way, either direct, or from known, reliable online retailers. Their website guidance on what to buy results in multiple part numbers, often out of stock, and costing over 50 euros. Go check the same thing on a manufacturer website like https://www.hopetech.com/ and you'll easily find the tool-free axle adapters available for everything produced in the last 20 years. The quality is there, but the prices are eye watering, and the service and parts availability is closer to off-brand Aliexpress electronic groupsets than Shimano & SRAM. |
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Not sure if it's been said above but the 'S' versions appear to have muted graphics and matte finish. I don't think there is a diff in the actual mechanics.
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And are the brake levers alloy instead of carbon? Or maybe a “lower level” of carbon construction? |
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