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Old 10-17-2024, 09:58 PM
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Securing bike to bike rack when the bike has front and/or rear racks

Thanks to a helpful forumite, I finally acquired an 1Up rack; and after dawdling for a few weeks, I finally installed a hitch and the rack.

One minor complication is that the arms used to secure wheels to each of the bike tray comes in conflict with the rear rack on my bike, such that the arms don't fully tighten down.

Does anyone here have similar issues? If so, how have you solved the problem?
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Old 10-18-2024, 07:25 AM
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Can't you move the tire grabbers way down?

and secure the wheels below the rack?

Whole long thread here discussing this topic...among others:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owne...m/wfYKKx5sAQAJ
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Old 10-18-2024, 07:36 AM
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You should be able to move the grabber if you have a rack. Fenders are even more of an issue.
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:43 AM
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On my touring bike with fenders and a rear rack this was an issue. On the rear, I only closed the rear holding arm so it was just above the fender and didn't contact it. Then I ran Voile straps around the sides of the arm and the vertical rack stay. One strap on each side. Cinched it down and the bike was quite solid all the way to Quebec. I also ran a strap to hold the back wheel tightly to the bottom tray. Wish I had a photo, but I'm at work. On the front I moved the tire grabber down lower so it contacted the tire in front of the fender.

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Old 10-18-2024, 10:53 AM
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Does anyone have the 1UP Fender cushion? For $13 it's worth a try I guess.

I have basically had Fenders on my All City the entire time I've had the 1UP and just haven't taken that bike on any vacation/trips we went on with bikes.

I have a 3-bike rack and the vast majority of the time I carry 1 or 2 bikes as my wife basically never takes her bike anywhere except vacation. So I could easily leave 2 of the Fender cushions on. I suspect I only even need one, my back Fender absolutely requires it but my front does not. I am waiting for a front rack for that bike right now though.
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Old 10-18-2024, 12:28 PM
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Ah, good call re: the tire grabber. Will give that a go this afternoon and report back.

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and secure the wheels below the rack?

Whole long thread here discussing this topic...among others:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owne...m/wfYKKx5sAQAJ

As an aside, locating this above is some serious google-fu

Imagining a search query where "bike rack" refers to two different types of items, one for a rack mounted on a bike to transport other items, and another for a rack located on another means of transportation to transport a bike.

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Old 10-18-2024, 03:38 PM
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Does anyone have the 1UP Fender cushion? For $13 it's worth a try I guess.

I have basically had Fenders on my All City the entire time I've had the 1UP and just haven't taken that bike on any vacation/trips we went on with bikes.

I have a 3-bike rack and the vast majority of the time I carry 1 or 2 bikes as my wife basically never takes her bike anywhere except vacation. So I could easily leave 2 of the Fender cushions on. I suspect I only even need one, my back Fender absolutely requires it but my front does not. I am waiting for a front rack for that bike right now though.
I put pipe insulation over the tire grabber which has the same effect as the 1UP cushion. This worked well on my bike with sturdy PB full metal fenders. On my bike with VO aluminum fenders I was worried about vibrations leading to fatigue.
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Old 10-18-2024, 06:56 PM
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I moved the tire grabber, and it appears to have solved the issue.

That said, this would be a real pain on a bike with fenders.

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Old 10-18-2024, 07:51 PM
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I guess that’s an older style 1 up as mine would hit the tire lower without adjustment. For fenders, I have a set of full SKS. it hasn’t been a problem on the front. On the rear, I replaced the screws at the bottom of the V with computer case thumb screws so I can undo them quickly. This allows me to raise rear fender enough to slip the gripper underneath (between tire and fender). Works pretty well IMO without a ton of fuss.

This style fender (more or less):

https://content.backcountry.com/imag...00G/B45SIL.jpg
Thumb screw (more or less):

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...L._SL1500_.jpg
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Old 10-19-2024, 07:40 AM
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https://1up-usa.com/product/wheel-saver

My wife’s bike has front and rear fenders and a rear rack. Trek ebike type. I use these as well as moving the spindle as in the phot above.
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Old 10-19-2024, 09:14 AM
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https://1up-usa.com/product/wheel-saver

My wife’s bike has front and rear fenders and a rear rack. Trek ebike type. I use these as well as moving the spindle as in the phot above.
I have 1up and have looked at those Wheel Savers but how do they actually protect my 'high end wheels" any more than without?

Curious
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Old 10-19-2024, 09:17 AM
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I have 1up and have looked at those Wheel Savers but how do they actually protect my 'high end wheels" any more than without?

Curious
Agree. The whole idea of racks like this is that they dont touch the frame or the wheels of a bike, just the tire. I dont see how that plastic thing would protect a wheel, high end or otherwise.
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Old 10-19-2024, 09:18 AM
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Also - that Hampsten is just lovely.
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Old 10-19-2024, 05:07 PM
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I have 1up and have looked at those Wheel Savers but how do they actually protect my 'high end wheels" any more than without?

Curious
Rather than all of the force of the rack spindle pushing in one small area, the wheel saver snaps on the spindle and displaces that force over a larger area. It also holds the bike in place so it doesn’t blow to the back of the arm thing and rub your fancy carbon wheels.
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Old 10-19-2024, 09:16 PM
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Rather than all of the force of the rack spindle pushing in one small area, the wheel saver snaps on the spindle and displaces that force over a larger area. It also holds the bike in place so it doesn’t blow to the back of the arm thing and rub your fancy carbon wheels.
What I assumed minus the blow back which I don't think I have experienced?

Do you use them?

I'm worried they would make it more futzy to attach the bike but maybe that isn't so.
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