Spoke suggestion

[KevinC]

It’s been a few years since I’ve built a wheel set.
The last time I selected components for a disc brake build, DT Supercomp spokes were the jam. I see they’re now not offered.

Looking for spoke suggestions

Me
160 lb experienced rider + light on gear (never broken a spoke)

Bike
Rigid steel frame-set - XC non weight weenie build for mid west single track.
29” wheels, aluminum rims, laced 3X all around
292mm silver spokes and silver brass nip
Available in singles (not box) preferred

Thanks

[vertr]

Sapim spokes are pretty nice and comparable to DT.
https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/350.htm

Leader: straight gauge $0.69
Strong: straight gauge heavy duty $0.79
Race: standard double butted $0.89
Laser: very light double butted $1.19
CX-Ray: fancy butted and bladed $3.49

Sapim race probably being the 'go-to' basic spoke that you are after.

[deluz]

I recently built some disc wheels and with Sapim D-Lights on the front and Sapim Race on rear DS and Laser on the NDS. I weigh 140 lbs.

[Wunder]

I think Sapim D-Light are pretty close to DT Supercomps in gauge. Bike Hub Store sells the full range of Sapim spokes in singles in all varieties and lengths.

https://www.bikehubstore.com/category-s/350.htm

[deluz]

Looks like DT is now calling it DT COMPETITION RACE.

[Fat Cat]

DTs are here

https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/yojimbos-garage-chicago

I've done lots of biz with him Up front good guy !

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by KevinC

Bike
Rigid steel frame-set - XC non weight weenie build for mid west single track.
29” wheels, aluminum rims, laced 3X all around
292mm silver spokes and silver brass nip
Available in singles (not box) preferred

Thanks

This literally leaves out the most important information regarding the wheel build - the rim (or at least its weight and cross-section) and the number of spokes. Lacing pattern of little significance, but as you also give the spoke length, then this probably means the spokes are already selected.

I'm not surprised the DT Super Comps have been discontinued, as they did not have an ideal profile (specifically, the 1.8mm threads). About the only thing I can think that could be an advantage of a 2.0mm/1.6mm/1.8mm spoke is they allow the nipples to have thicker walls, which could be an advantage with aluminum nippls - but since you are using brass nipples, it's better to stick to 2.0mm nipples.

So, you're probably looking at using spokes of one of these profiles:

2.0/1.8/2.0 (DT Competition, Sapim Race)

2.0/1.6/2.0 (DT Competition Race) 2.0/1.65 (Sapim D-light)

2.0/1.5/2.0 (DT Revolution, Sapim Laser).


All have the same 2.0mm diameter at elbows and threads, and vary by the thickness in the center sections. A thinner center section makes the spokes lighter, and it also makes the spokes more elastic. The greater elasticity has two effects: The obvious effect is that it makes the wheels more flexy; the less obvious is that elasticity reduces peak loading, making the spokes more fatigue resistant (fatigue is the cause of most spoke breakages). Spokes with thinner center sections require more processing, so typically the thinner the spoke, the more expensive.

So, the final decision on the spoke thickness will likely come down to the number of spokes - if the wheels use only a small number of spokes, you probably don't want spokes too thin, or the wheels may be too flexy. If the spokes use a large number of spokes, then you can shave a little weight with thinner spokes without loosing too much stiffness (and also gaining a little fatigue endurance).

[bikinchris]

If you're not a weight weenie, build with Competition 2.0/1.8/2.0 spokes.

[tellyho]

14/15 ga double butted from any of the spoke manufacturers. I've been using Pillar lately.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by KevinC

It’s been a few years since I’ve built a wheel set.
The last time I selected components for a disc brake build, DT Supercomp spokes were the jam. I see they’re now not offered.

Looking for spoke suggestions

Me
160 lb experienced rider + light on gear (never broken a spoke)

Bike
Rigid steel frame-set - XC non weight weenie build for mid west single track.
29” wheels, aluminum rims, laced 3X all around
292mm silver spokes and silver brass nip
Available in singles (not box) preferred

Thanks

Sapim Race. Brass SecureLock nipple(not offered at BikeHubStore)
I can supply silver or black. Silver WITH silver brass SecureLock nipple are $1.15 per.

I have a Morizumi spoke cutter/threader so I can supply any length.

cp51errc@gmail.com

[ColonelJLloyd]

Originally Posted by tellyho

14/15 ga double butted from any of the spoke manufacturers. I've been using pillar lately.

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