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I'm cheap. I'm also old, fat, and slow. I've ridden steel almost exclusively for about fifty years. My two latest purchases are both post-2000 steel. Both tig welded. One is a 2005 Specialized Allez Comp and the other a 2004 (Haro) Masi. Both are 9spd Ultegra. Both ride as fine as anything that I have had. I couldn't buy a set of hotrod modern wheels for what I have in them.
Last edited by Fat Cat; 05-15-2024 at 12:42 PM. |
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Interesting how Daccordi continues to make rim brake, steel, lugged steel, etc bikes. While not classic/vintage steel, I dig what they're doing. Perhaps this market is much more prevalent in Europe, and Italy in particular. The caption "F-thediscbrakecollective" says it all.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C65n7Z4MDFI/?img_index=1 |
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Must be going viral.
Same hashtag on the Huffy 'gram. |
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That's not a caption or a hashtag, it's the name of an Instagram account that mostly does collaboration posts.
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there is a reason why manufacturers, etc spend millions (billions?) on marketing.. marketing often has a strong psychological base to it, people get paid a lot of money to study how, as humans, will react to xxx.. so yes, we are easily "taken" by marketing.. does anyone here doubt a Porsche Cayman is a better sports car than a Mazda Miata? my guess is few would disagree.. will most people EVER get to the limits of a Miata? I highly doubt it, but Porsche has certainly convinced plenty of folks that the Cayman is the car they need to step up to if they are "serious".. there are thousands of other examples of this.. I 100% believe that today's bikes are better bikes than ones from 10, 15, 20+ years ago.. does that mean I can "outride" a bike from 15 yrs ago? nope.. but I might be more comfy on a bike with geo better suited for me as a 50 y/o, "husky" guy.. just my .02
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While the performance benefits for a racer are real, I think this might actually be the more important point for the median rider. Stiffer frames and wheels, wider tires, and better brakes are a huge benefit for the 200+ lb rider relative to the 130lb rider, and a new carbon gravel bike is cheaper than a year on ozempic.
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While there are some riders who will genuinely benefit from the advancements in road bikes over the last 10-15 years, there are many more riders to won't really benefit. But the bike industry as a whole has not done a great job getting new riders into the sport, so if they want to continue to sell bikes, they have to convince existing riders that a new bike will be "better" and that their existing bike isn't "good enough". |
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Correct, but if you see Daccordi's offerings, they still believe in steel, lugged steel, and rim brake. Granted the materials aren't 30 year old technology, but there is still some segment of the population that craves the look and ride feel.
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Daccordi makes great bikes and honestly, modern steel bikes that are really fantastic.
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for me, it's not about the material, but the design.. and, yes, that design can include discs, e-shifting, but doesn't have to in order to make a great bike.
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I dove into the vintage steel market about four years ago, have a collection of a few dozen and have sold a few dozen. In my experience the high-end excellent condition stuff has been pretty stable. This is probably similar to other collectible markets - cars, motorcycles, coins, stamps, etc. However, I've had to learn that many marquees just aren't in much demand. Anecdotally, a 60s Cinelli, a 50s René Herse, a pristine Paramount, Eisentraut, Della Santa, Columbine, an authentic 7-Eleven team bike etc. still command good money. The same goes for components. Finding a nice Dura Ace 7402 rear derailleur, let alone STI levers isn't cheap. More obscure names such as small American builders have a small following and can sometimes be had for very little (lucky me). A large swath of collectors are certainly aging out - they already have the bike they wanted in the shop window as a teenager - and there may not be a market for a good part of their collections. Vintage bikes from the 80s and before are becoming less for riding and more for collecting, restoring, and a displaying. It's a shift that every category of collectibles and antiques experiences.
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Be careful what you wish for. I have a 85 911, and the jump in value of these cars has actually made it somewhat less enjoyable for me. It was easy to drive a 15-20k car when I wanted to or not feel guilty about not driving it. Now that its a 50k asset, I fret. And the rebuild cost on the motor has gone up 3-4x along with the bubble. |
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