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I believe that it’s been mentioned a few times on the escape collective podcasts that they hoped for fast bikes that look good with more relaxed geo. Seems like some manufactures listened. For sure there will continue to be pro-level racing bikes in the future, but having a bike that looks, rides and feels like a pro bike without requiring pro weight and flexibility can only be a good thing, right? And integrated storage and mounts for these are a nice add on, but don’t see it as being a full stop requirement. But between this and the Endurace, Fray, Roadmaxhine, Domane, and Roubaix it’s getting a bit crowded in a good way. |
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Stack and reach are related, so if you raise stack, reach gets shorter unless you want to make the whole bike longer...
Anyway, cables still routing through headsets here for some reason, so I'll stick with the Pegoretti geo chart. |
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Yeah, maybe, but for the same price as the Fray I can almost guarantee this bike will ride noticeably better. I'd take that over storage any day. Too bad it's kinda ugly
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I agree with all you've said. And I am saying the same thing. However, the other side of the coin in the geometry of a road race bike --- Tarmac, Enonda etc. The people buying these new gen all road bikes will have to forgo the experience of the razor sharp handling that is innate in a road race bike. Maybe they are not looking for that. But boy-o-boy, the way a 980 mm-ish (wheelbase -- size 54) road race bike with it's 56 mm-ish trail carves corners is nothing short of true joy.
If you ask me, if there is the means, there ought to be a pure road race bike in one's quiver. Quote:
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I wonder how the current gen true road race bikes that can take 35 mm tires will ride with 32 or 35 mm tires. Will the gain in comfort given by the low pressure wide tires alter significantly that road race "handling" one is looking for.
What I mean is are wide tires (whatever "wide" might be defined as) and road race bike handling mutually exclusive? From experience, I know that 28 mm tires on my Emonda still gets the giggles from me. Will 32? Will 35? Dunno. Quote:
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The whole thing is just silly.. ideally they just want bikes in a variation of sizes to suit people with different torso/leg ratios.
I never saw that Pegoretti size chart before. Pegoretti clearly "got it". I know Colnago for a long time did that too, but IIRC last time I looked Colnago has started to do away with that? You don't need to differentiate the function of the bikes that fit longer limb/shorter torso people separately from the bikes that fit shorter limb/longer torso people, you ideally make both in all the models of bikes. Likewise if they just cover these variations they get good sizing for both men and women. It seems they used to do that before the desire to reduce the # of carbon molds/layups became the most important business consideration. I have had several people tell me there are some decent correlations between ethnic background and whether you will tend to fit better on long/low or short/tall, as well as it varying with height. I could see the bikes we have available having a very strong Euro-centric ancestry bias and obviously we know they have historically had a pretty strong male-centric bias. |
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also, can I just say I'm so over the word "quiver"..
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The technical specs say "Full internal routing, electronic drivetrain only."
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Internal Routing is required under the LBS Preservation Act of of 2024.
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The brake hoses run through the headset, regardless of how they make their way from the handlebars.
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