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Old 01-24-2024, 12:03 PM
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"Budget" priced MOOTS what's to get?
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Old 01-24-2024, 12:06 PM
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"budget" priced moots what's to get?
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Old 01-24-2024, 12:23 PM
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You think they just shouldn't offer it at all?
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Old 01-24-2024, 12:30 PM
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You think they just shouldn't offer it at all?
nah. i just think the notion of a "budget" moots is silly! who's budget are we talking?!?!
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Old 01-24-2024, 12:35 PM
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I think the actually interesting thing about this new bike hasn't really been discussed here, and that's the 38mm tire clearance. I'm actually curious what the real world clearance is.

This is a new development for Moots, and something without a parallel in the Lynskey or Litespeed catalog.

Frankly, I think this is the kind of road bike that most people who aren't actually racing would really like, a bike which is at home on the road, but, with another wheel set is capable of most "gravel" in most parts of the world.

I had Habanero build me such a bike about a year ago, built around 32mm tires, but with clearance for up to ~42mm or so, with anti studs and Paul Mini Motos. Had this bike existed then, and was available as just a framset, I might have bought the moots.
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Old 01-24-2024, 12:40 PM
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Yeah looking at this more they already built this bike in 2018 with the Disc Road and just expanded the tire clearance by 8mm and replaced the regular flat mount drop outs with the 3d printed version.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:00 PM
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Yeah looking at this more they already built this bike in 2018 with the Disc Road and just expanded the tire clearance by 8mm and replaced the regular flat mount drop outs with the 3d printed version.
I was thinking it's more like the original Routt, but with flat mount brakes.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:06 PM
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I had Habanero build me such a bike about a year ago, built around 32mm tires, but with clearance for up to ~42mm or so, with anti studs and Paul Mini Motos. Had this bike existed then, and was available as just a framset, I might have bought the moots.
If I may inquire, you didn't go disc on the custom Hab, but you'd have got this disc Moots? FWIW, my fav part of my Moots RSL/CX is the Canti studs and Paul's Mini Moto.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:11 PM
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How much are you willing to bet, and what odds you giving?

Although if you and me are nobody, you are dead right.


Is the +10k starting Ultegra cabled or Di2? Cabled I'd bet.

Just a personal observation. Even Lynskey has tapered HTs, the straight beer can 44HT for even 1/2 this price point... is going to doom this itself. IMO

Shoulda done some 3D or sexy HT. Look for a discontinued model in record time.
I suspect the target audience for this bike is the relatively casual rider with disposable income who wants a Moots, but is otherwise blind to considerations like HT dimensions or the differences between Rival/Force/Red. They just want a Moots and this is the most reasonable price of admission. I think they'll sell plenty of these. I also think there will be a lot of these on Facebook, Craigslist, etc. in the coming years with $6500 asking prices and "like new" or "hardly ridden" in the description.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:15 PM
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How much are you willing to bet, and what odds you giving?

Although if you and me are nobody, you are dead right.


Is the +10k starting Ultegra cabled or Di2? Cabled I'd bet.

Just a personal observation. Even Lynskey has tapered HTs, the straight beer can 44HT for even 1/2 this price point... is going to doom this itself. IMO

Shoulda done some 3D or sexy HT. Look for a discontinued model in record time.
I'd bet that new Ultegra is only Di2.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:18 PM
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I suspect the target audience for this bike is the relatively casual rider with disposable income who wants a Moots, but is otherwise blind to considerations like HT dimensions or the differences between Rival/Force/Red. They just want a Moots and this is the most reasonable price of admission. I think they'll sell plenty of these. I also think there will be a lot of these on Facebook, Craigslist, etc. in the coming years with $6500 asking prices and "like new" or "hardly ridden" in the description.
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I just want to know why they named it 33 vs. 38?
That was my initial thought too, I figured this was moots' take on "road 32", but no...

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This road machine is named after county road 33 just outside our front door. Known locally as our pavement ride that features surfaces from smooth fresh tarmac, to variable generations of chip seal, and a number of off-shoots that prompt you to take the dirt route back to town.
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Old 01-24-2024, 01:57 PM
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Their road & gravel line-up utilizing "Vamoots" & "Routt" monikers is a little confusing.
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Old 01-24-2024, 02:00 PM
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That was my initial thought too, I figured this was moots' take on "road 32", but no...
Solved a mystery that was driving me mad with curiosity today, thanks

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Old 01-24-2024, 02:03 PM
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with credit to our friend many styles, this people, this is a moots road bike:

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