NewBikeShopper

[zap]

Originally Posted by one60

CyclingTips had a very favorable review of the Emonda SL Pro6 which I believe is the next step down in the range?

10+ years ownership.

Long term the SL is the better frame. I believe that SLR frames (having seen damaged frames) are too brittle.

[one60]

Originally Posted by NewBikeShopper

Good point, the logo is large and several reviewers point that out! If I could choose I’d go with the matte black finish, but the red/blue Segafredo finish is acceptable.

If the logo is not to your taste, Speedy Decal offers inexpensive alternatives as well as custom options

[NewBikeShopper]

Originally Posted by zap

10+ years ownership.

Long term the SL is the better frame. I believe that SLR frames (having seen damaged frames) are too brittle.

Is your experience with the 2021 frame or earlier models?

The 2021 SLR OCLV 800 is purported to be stiffer, but stronger. They claim that's why they were able to make the entire frame more aero without adding weight.

What Trek claims, but maybe not accurate in practice?

[zap]

Originally Posted by NewBikeShopper

Is your experience with the 2021 frame or earlier models?

Earlier model, '17. My understanding is that Trek is using the same type of carbon composite.....Trek speak 800. The layup scheduling for the new '21 model is different but not the carbon itself.

[NewBikeShopper]

Originally Posted by zap

Earlier model, '17. My understanding is that Trek is using the same type of carbon composite.....Trek speak 800. The layup scheduling for the new '21 model is different but not the carbon itself.

I never believe everything I read, but they state on the website:

"2 years in development"
"800 OCLV fibers 30% stronger while retaining same stiffness"
"we can use less of it than a different type of carbon w/ same effect"

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/oclv-800/

[Waldo62]

Given the options you presented, I'd go with the Emonda -- an excellent bike which you can ride immediately. Also, likely, it's easier to deal with Trek about any warranty issues that may arise than with 'Nago or Pina.

[poff]

I own C64 Disk and nothing compares in terms of power transmission and handling to it. I love it, but always worry that something may happen to it. Moots RSL Disk - all metal, no worries, but a bit sluggish compared to C64.

[NewBikeShopper]

Originally Posted by poff

I own C64 Disk and nothing compares in terms of power transmission and handling to it.

Thanks for your reply.

Do you find the C64 is a little more forgiving on the body?
Would the say the geometry isn't as aero as the other bikes?

I can't spend as much time in the saddle as I used to and trying to avoid sore back/neck issues?

[poff]

Originally Posted by NewBikeShopper

Thanks for your reply.

Do you find the C64 is a little more forgiving on the body?
Would the say the geometry isn't as aero as the other bikes?

I can't spend as much time in the saddle as I used to and trying to avoid sore back/neck issues?

C64, I have the compact version, is pretty forgiving, while plenty stiff, and geometry works well for me. Aero is not a priority for me as I tend to climb a lot, and it is a great climber. Here in the Bay Area we do not have long flats.

[Team Murray]

Originally Posted by NewBikeShopper

My bike was stolen last week (pic attached), it was an older ride (pic attached), but many hours in the saddle and personal customizations make it difficult to let go.

I’m trying to replace it as soon as possible, hard to do with everything out of stock due to the pandemic, opinions & recommendations are greatly appreciated (3 frames at bottom):

I ride roughly 150-200 miles a week, weekdays are flats and weekends are climbs. I’m 5’11” with a slightly larger torso and as I’ve gotten older my setup is less aero than it used to be. My preference is to invest wisely in the best, take very good care of it and ride it for 10+ years.

Here’s the rub, I’ve tested the Trek Emonda and I can ride away with it this weekend. Because of the industry’s supply & demand issues, the Pinarello and Colnago are anywhere from 4-8 months wait and there’s nothing in my size to test ride and I’ve never been on an Italian frame before.

- Trek Emonda SLR OCLV 800 (size 56)
- Pinarello Dogma F12 (size 55)
- Colgnago C64 (size TBD)

Are you still looking for a Colnago?

My body size and proportions are similar to your description. I am 5’11, with a long torso. In addition, I’m very flexible. So, my bike setup does not need a lot of drop to achieve an aero position. In Colnago, I ride a 54s, which has a 56.5 cm top tube, with a 120mm, 10d stem. My saddle height, bb to top of saddle is 74cm.

Over the past few years, I had a C60 but felt it was a punishing frame. I switched to Concept and found it was more comfortable. In 2019, I went to the C64 rim brake. Relative to the C60, the C64 dropped weight and designed in some compliance. Recently, I added the C64 disc. The frame rides the same as the rim brake version. The bike feels more solid because the additional weight in the front from the calipers and levers and the larger feeling levers.

If you’re in the Bay Area, I let you try a bike.




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