Need help: Vintage Campagnolo Shamal wheel type

[weisan]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

Assuming you can use standard spokes & nipples with that rim, you can use any standard 28 hole hub, and skip every other hole on the NDS. You won't be able to use standard spoke calculators for the spoke lengths, but with a little bit of trigonometry you can work out the correct lengths.

Have you been eavedroppin' while I was taking a shower?

That's the "plan".

[fignon's barber]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

GWeiss Ballan were famous as they were the cutting edge of EPO use in 1993...DeRosa also, and some of the first titanium DeRosa's.

Yes. I was watching an old 1993 spring classics video a few weeks ago. Phil Liggett comments, " The Italians are really on a high. They have won 92 of the first 100 races so far this year." Too funny.

[velofinds]

Originally Posted by thirdgenbird

The front went to 14.

Ooh, black. Very nice.

[velofinds]

Originally Posted by Remko

Thank you very much for the explanation. Can you value my wheelset if I want to sell it on ebay?

Someone would probably pay about $400 US for them. If you bought them for approx. half that amount, you got a very good deal.

[thirdgenbird]

Originally Posted by leegf

Ooh, black. Very nice.

Thanks

[Jgrooms]

Resurrection.



Look same as OP. 16/16 spoke count. Decals.

So these are 8 speed only? But cassette body swap allows for 9/10/11?





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[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Jgrooms

Resurrection.



Look same as OP. 16/16 spoke count. Decals.

So these are 8 speed only? But cassette body swap allows for 9/10/11?





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Yes, use a FH body from last gen Record or Chorus hubs, 1997/8 generation. Plug and play. Steel axle or ti axle, type. You can use Athena or Veloce FH body as well but need to include the axle..

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

Yes, use a FH body from last gen Record or Chorus hubs, 1997/8 generation. Plug and play. Steel axle or ti axle, type. You can use Athena or Veloce FH body as well but need to include the axle..

Yes to the above, but with a small caveat: The drive side spokes on the original 8spd Shamals were a little more outboard than on later 9/10spd Shamals, so if you convert the 8spd Shamals to 9/10spd, the derailleur will be a little closer to the spokes. Because of the angle of the spokes, derailleur clearance on any wheel is dependent on sprocket size, so the smaller the cassette you use on the converted Shamals, the greater the chances you will have of derailleur rub. So, don't use a 12-21 cassette on the converted Shamals, but a 12-25 or larger should be fine.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Mark McM

Yes to the above, but with a small caveat: The drive side spokes on the original 8spd Shamals were a little more outboard than on later 9/10spd Shamals, so if you convert the 8spd Shamals to 9/10spd, the derailleur will be a little closer to the spokes. Because of the angle of the spokes, derailleur clearance on any wheel is dependent on sprocket size, so the smaller the cassette you use on the converted Shamals, the greater the chances you will have of derailleur rub. So, don't use a 12-21 cassette on the converted Shamals, but a 12-25 or larger should be fine.

True of HPW hubs, not these. HPW FH body sits way into hub shell so chain/big cog and spokes an issue, not really this with j bend spokes. Hard part is finding FH body...only made for about 2 years.

[Mark McM]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

True of HPW hubs, not these. HPW FH body sits way into hub shell so chain/big cog and spokes an issue, not really this with j bend spokes. Hard part is finding FH body...only made for about 2 years.

Oops! Yes, you're right, these 'standard' hubs should be fine with a freehub swap. I was thinking of the set of Shamals with HPW hubs that I converted from 8spd to 9/10spd.

[El Chaba]

Data point...I can confirm that the original Shamals can be easily converted to a 9 speed freehub body and will not have clearance issues with even a 21 tooth large cog. I have a set hanging in my basement that have been used in that configuration for years.