Determining Frame Value

[54ny77]

i have no idea how to answer your question, but i can say that fork is really nice looking.

good luck no matter what you do.

[martinrjensen]

The problem with that philosophy is that say my bid doesn't get entered until about 4 seconds before the end of the auction. Virtually all significant bids come in within the last couple minutes of the end of the auction. Pick any auction and monitor the last 5 minutes of it sometime. You want to sell it, it's worth what someone will pay for it as stated. Make a nice ad with excellent pictures and start the bid low, like a dollar. If you want to hold on to it set a reserve but using the reserve will cost you a fair amount on eBay, as long as you know. I quit using reserve a while ago. I let the market determine the value.

Originally Posted by Nooch

is there a penalty for ending an auction early on ebay? say you're watching your own auction and there's 10 minutes to go and it doesn't look like you're going to get what you 'hope' to get for it -- could you have a change of heart and decide to keep it?

(i know it would be a grimey practice, i'm not advocating for it, but i suppose it would get you an idea of where the market is without commiting..)

It's a beautiful bike -- my boss has 30th anniversary #1...

[shovelhd]

There is no "penalty" for ending an auction early on eBay, but if you make a habit of it, your reputation may be tarnished.

[DavidWiese]

Originally Posted by vav

What size is it btw?

56 cm seat tube center-to-center.
55 cm top tube center-to-center.

[Liberace]

My guess is $1,500-1,650 if new.

[cachagua]

Personally I like the high initial buy-it-now/work downwards method... I'm hoping to do that early next season with a couple of frames I've been sitting on. Only reason not to is if you need cash immediately.

I guess the way I think of it is, starting high and working gradually down allows you to see how much someone will pay; starting at $.99 and hoping it'll go high only shows you how little you'd let it go for.

Those guys that say only a few hundred bucks... they want it themselves! In fact, --yeah. I don't think you could get $50 for it, actually. But I'd give you $35...

[esldude]

As someone this frame would fit, and someone who would like to have it, if cruising eBay and a BIN price was above $1000, I would just keep on cruising. Not a professional appraiser or anything, just a data point from someone who is a potential buyer. Don't know I would even go to $1000, but do know above that I am not a potential buyer. Above that I wouldn't even inquire for the details. It is a great frame, but there are lots of worthy frames out nowadays.

I think a drawback of the high BIN price lowered each week is personally, I might look at it once or twice and then no more. I think one is better to start low or have a moderate reserve, let it go a fair number of days, somewhere between 10 days and 3 weeks and just see what it brings.

I think you need to add details too. For instance, I don't know, a 30th anniversary, exactly which non-anniversary frame in the Serotta line at the time is that comparable to or based upon? How is a 30th ann. frame different than a non-anniversary edition? One can see it has carbon stays, is the rest steel, or titanium? And while I know, you will need to specify that a 30th anniversary edition is 2002 for those that don't know.

One can look at complete Serotta frames for a year or two in either direction and get some idea. The 30th anniversary edition is not going to bring a large premium over those, maybe a bit of one.

[Ahneida Ride]

Originally Posted by christian

40% of retail. Best case. Nice looking bike, but that's reality.

The used bike market is so pity-full right now.
I'd just keep the frame if it fits.

or save it till spring, when you may secure more Greenspan Green Stamps.

[Ahneida Ride]

Originally Posted by Liberace

My guess is $1,500-1,650 if new.

I'd start there and hope ....

visit flea bay and check out the market there.

[SPOKE]

I'm pretty certain this frame is one of either 13 or16 produced to celebrate Serotta's 30th anniversary. Basically a CSi. With carbon seat stay, special color combo/decal package, individually signed/numbered. Head tube looks lugged but actually milled to look that way. TT & DT are fillet brazed to the HT and the seat cluster is fillet brazed I the only lug is the BB shell. fork is an F2.
I know where 3 of these are. One is mine, Serotta Pete, and Ron Kiefel.
Next to an Ottrott built for you it is the next best ridding frame from Serotta.....iMO
Very rare frame/fork.

[CaptStash]

Another vote for the $1,500+ BuyItNow plan. When you consider that IF Crown Jewel's routinely fetch in teh neighborhood of $800 when in flawless condition, it would seem reasonable that your Serotta would be more valuable. I like the idea of setting the price high and seeing what happens, then working your way down (if necessary) until somebody bites.

If it fit me, I would certainly have to think really hard at $1,000.

CaptStash....

[cachagua]

I'd have to think hard at $1000, too. And it'd fit me. It'd fit me very, very well.

If you choose one of the above methods, or something different, and don't get any satisfaction, get in touch. But I have a feeling someone will snag it -- people routinely pay very high prices for a carbon/steel frame built to order from prominent builders. The difference here is instead of someone ordering it, it drops into their lap...

If I were actively shopping, and had a grand in the budget, that frame would be sold right now. I can't be the only one that feels this way, and nearly EVERYBODY is richer than I am... I think you'll have good luck.