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[QUOTE=Mark McM;3354836]Thank you for proving my point. As an analogy, just like Kia makes affordable cars with 4 cylinder engines while luxury brand Ferrari makes makes expensive cars with carbon fiber and 8 cylinder engines, affordable brand Shimano makes affordable gravel drivetrains with 10 speeds while luxury brand Campagnolo makes expensive gravel drivetrains with carbon fiber with 13 speeds. You've made a good case that Campagnolo is concentrating on the high-end niche of the market.[/QUOTE.
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Is campy going after the OEM market?
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OE is always interesting.
It drives volume & utimately & increasingly, involvement in ProTour, these days. Bike brands are, in ProTour, usually the people who dictate equipment choices, based on what they fit on the bikes the public buys. Example - AG2R moves from BMC (who spec CA on their high end bikes) to Van Rysel (who spec Shimano), so the team equipment sponsor changes. Not about money or who offers what - purely because of the shift of headline sponsor to Decathlon, their house-brand of bike and where they do most of their assembly. Last time I looked (caveat, may have changed since Jan but I don't think so), 10/18 ProTour team websites, the groupset supplier isn't listed as a separate sponsor or even "supplier". |
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I'm always surprised that for all the business and manufacturing experts/consultants we seem to have on the forum, there is a serious and surprising lack of understanding what influence scale (principally, but amongst many other things) has on unit price when the inevitable Campagnolo vs Shimano comparison comes up.
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Has anyone seen EKAR GT for sale anywhere?
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From Bikerumor......
Campy has been quiet about real-world availability so far, although we have been told that you should be able to order complete bikes built up with Ekar GT this week. We’ve also not had it in our hands yet, either. The new alloy Zonda GT wheels are also relatively affordable at $750 / 690€. Historically, Campagnolo has only released new groupsets when the products were already in shops or in-transit on the way to retailers. So far we haven’t heard of anyone with them in stock ahead of the launch. https://bikerumor.com/campagnolo-eka...re-affordable/ |
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These are also not too far away from the price of disc carbon Shamals.
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Yup, the good ole USA is a third place market behind Asia and Europe with regards to bike stuff.
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Maybe Campy is waiting for a bit of that stock to sell through |
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Any predictions on what will happen with the regular Ekar group? Curious if it will be re-designed in a couple of years based on GT refinements (i.e. 104 BCD, refined brifter ergonomics, etc.), or, will it be discontinued after the current stock sells?
The 'GT' naming is also a little odd compared to the road line-up. What does 'GT' stand for? Chorus, Record, Super Record are familiar, how will the gravel line develop? Ekar GT, Ekar, Super Ekar? It's a bit vague. I am quite curious if the road bike world would ever embrace a 1x13 in the future. it could be GT = Gravel, Ekar gets replaced by Chorus 1x and so on..... hmmmm, maybe not. Last edited by Erikg; 02-23-2024 at 09:45 PM. |
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This is just my prediction. |
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