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I am 5'8 and 230lbs presently with decent power. My Round rides smoothly, but still has the get up and go when you put power down. I have ridden it on 25s and now Corsa Control 30mm tires. The ride isn't harsh at all with proper tire pressures.
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At your weight (I'm 90kg) it is definitely the right model if you want to buy a Pegoretti and cannot afford/justify the Round. It is stiff but not harsh, plenty of posts on this forum have tried to explain in words how this bike 'feels' and the reason why we are still discussing about it years after Dario passing and the world having moved on to disc is that many owners loved it.
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I also ride 50cm bikes. I have ridden many, many bikes of all materials. I have only ridden one bike frame that I could say was entirely too "stiff" and harsh feeling. I have very rarely, if ever heard criticism of a Pegoretti for being too stiff or harsh of a ride, so I wouldnt worry about that factor. I am curious what makes you think you need 160mm cranks? I obviously don't know you or of any particular fit needs you have, but I'm skeptical of fitters with radical ideas for the vast majority of reasonably normally proportioned people. The big three make 170, 172.5 and 175 crank arms, and I think almost everyone out there should be fine on one of them. I would never even consider a disc brake Pegoretti.
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Couldn't have said it better than Dan. I too, question the 160 cranks? I'm 5' 6" and have a 50cm Marcelo. I actually had some power numbers ran during a fitting and found I produce better power on 172.5's then 170's. Don't let your fitter or Gordon steer your bike decision, that said I agree with Dan in spend some time on the shorty crank arms and make sure that's where you want to go. If you want a rim brake Peg, go with it. Rim wheels and groups will be around for many years to come as there's a gazillion rim brake builds out there still rolling. I have a RL coming in 2025 and it will be rim brake, If I was buying a Peg today or in 2025 it would be rim brake. I would not even consider a disc Pegoretti. |
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Given the choice between (a) a crappy looking bike that rides sublimely and (b) an aesthetic marvel that rides like a tractor, I choose (c) hiking. For me, bikes are functional works of art. |
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Also, ask yourself why this rim brake thread [link below] has 524 post and 56,022 view. As far as 10 year plan, I still ride a few mid 80s and 90s steel bikes resto-modded with 11s Campy. And that is with zoot plastic bikes in the rotation. https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=299875
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Slight thread drift, but maybe relevant. Cheers. |
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On the other hand, a Duende or Respo is an excellent bike, and can be ridden hard as well - probably a closer choice though for that sub-200lb rider vs. our OP.
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Is the OP looking to use said bike in aggressive group riding VS JRA with interval/training etc? Also age and power come into play probably. What was flexy for me 25 year ago is fine today @ 67 years old. Plenty stiff is a term I started using at a point.
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Not sure. I don't ride in groups. Too dangerous. But I aggressively chase myself.. does that count?
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Im 174cm tall and ride a 53cm Responsorium with a seat height of 69.8cm and 155mm cranks by Rotor. It's a smooth ride and I have it fitted with 25mm GP5000 tires. Im currently sitting at 180lbs, however I have ridden the bike when I was 210lbs, and it never been too stiff or harsh of a ride.
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This was my first fit where a fit bike was available and that is how I arrived at short cranks. With my proportions I have a gut and I was able to make more power and get in a better position with the shorty cranks. Shimano makes a 160 and I have ordered those for my Aethos as an inexpensive test. I do spin on climbs, I also like to get up so we shall see how the short cranks work. Unless I am mistaken the crank length doesn't have a lot to do with the frame size and we based the 50cm fit on exposed seat post and what would be the best off the shelf (if it would fit me) size. The 53cm Marcelo that Gordon has (my word is it a nice ciavete) didn't have enough exposed post for my taste. We mocked up the 53 and 50 and the 50 gives me standover as well. For the other poster's questions, I have two types of riding that I do. I either ride with my wife or do hard solo rides. No group rides, no racing, just miles on awful roads. I feel pretty confident based on the feedback that the Marcelo is going to work well for me. Off to figure out what these Next wheels are folks have talked about, I may or may not have become enamoured with CULT bearings based on some demonstrations Isaac Rim Brake Defense Force lapsed member |
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Once you get this together I'll have to plan a stop in Olympia to spin some miles together -- I got to Seattle for work fairly frequently and have never ridding in/around Olympia.
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