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Old 12-15-2022, 05:24 PM
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They're struggling with intermittency, but the grid isn't just gone.


No it doesn't. Even if Russia occupied the entirety of Crimea, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, Luhansk, and Kherson oblasts, which it doesn't, we'd be looking at about 15% of Ukraine's pre-war GDP.


Not really. Ukraine's ability to mobilize has been mostly limited by material and training, not manpower. Enough Ukrainians have volunteered that they actually cancelled the standard autumn draft for this year.


It would look different, but it's unlikely that it would be over. Even a lot of the analysts who thought that Ukraine's conventional forces would be quickly defeated - analysts who badly underestimated Ukraine and underestimated various systemic problems with Russia's military - were of the opinion that Russian forces would fail in the occupation effort.
Need a like button. I think the “Ukrainian” would rather die on their feet than live on their knees.
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