Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-29-2024, 09:03 AM
AngryScientist's Avatar
AngryScientist AngryScientist is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: northeast NJ
Posts: 34,124
Super Record S

I think now I'm getting a little confused with the Campag line-up. Have we discussed this here?

So now there is

Super Record WRL
Super Record EPS
Super Record S
Super Record (mech)(disc and rim)
Record (disc and rim)
Chorus (disc and rim)
Centaur (rim)

I thought this was an interesting real-world vid of SR S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lIEd5O5x8
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-29-2024, 09:19 AM
ckamp's Avatar
ckamp ckamp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 794
Im still waiting for Super Super Record
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-29-2024, 09:20 AM
charliedid's Avatar
charliedid charliedid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicago
Posts: 13,514
Just a rumor or hearsay....it was inferred to me that it was designed as an OEM group for complete bikes.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-29-2024, 09:28 AM
Mark McM Mark McM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,655
Groupset inflation

There was a time when Super Record was not a complete group unto itself, but was a name applied to a few select high spec. components. When Super Record became a complete group, it was a singular pinnacle, above all the other Campagnolo groups. Somehow now the majority of Campagnolo groups are called Super Record.

Maybe this is like Lake Wobegon, where every single child is above average.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-29-2024, 10:28 AM
fignon's barber's Avatar
fignon's barber fignon's barber is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Gulf Coast Florida
Posts: 2,900
I've been on Campagnolo almost exclusively since 1988. Never really cared for Super Record. To me, it's a bit like the gold plated Colnagos: a bit too much. Always been a Chorus guy, absolutely stopping at Record if I wanted to splurge.
__________________
BIXXIS Prima
Cyfac Fignon Proxidium
Legend TX6.5
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-29-2024, 10:38 AM
Blown Reek Blown Reek is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,725
I've been on Campagnolo almost exclusively since 1992. Never really cared for Chorus. To me, it's a bit like 105/Ultegra: a bit too pedestrian. Always been a Record guy, moved to Super Record when it became the top offering.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-29-2024, 10:41 AM
bigbill bigbill is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hackberry, AZ
Posts: 4,063
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
I think now I'm getting a little confused with the Campag line-up. Have we discussed this here?

So now there is

Super Record WRL
Super Record EPS
Super Record S
Super Record (mech)(disc and rim)
Record (disc and rim)
Chorus (disc and rim)
Centaur (rim)

I thought this was an interesting real-world vid of SR S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lIEd5O5x8
Great video. I have four bikes with campy ranging from Record 10 to 2015 Chorus 11. My trainer bike has a mixed group from 2009 with an Ultegra chain driving the 11-28 cassette on my Wahoo KICKR. The Record 10 is on an MX Leader, the Pegoretti BLE has the newer Chorus group, and the Nobilette GT has all alloy PS Athena 11 from 2012. I do my own wrenching and keep spares in my "campy box" that include UT cups (eng+Ita), two sets of Chorus steel bearings, wavy washer, retainer clip, Chorus 102 bottom bracket for the Merckx, two Chorus 11 chains, and two Chorus 11 speed cassettes, because I have faith that most LBS don't have these items. I don't see myself buying any new campy groups.

I have three bikes with Shimano, a MTB with XT 11, gravel bike with a mix of 6800, 8000, and 685 levers, and a Lynskey with 8000 which will soon have a powermeter crankset. Shimano stuff just works and the parts are reasonable and readily available.

Finally, I have one SRAM AXS bike, an Open Min.d with 12 speed Red. It is the first and only electronic shifting bike I have. I like it, but swapping between bikes requires me to reconfigure my brain in the first few miles. I've had no issues with AXS, and Force level components are good and similar to using Ultegra parts in an otherwise Dura Ace drivetrain.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-29-2024, 10:55 AM
mcteague's Avatar
mcteague mcteague is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Maryland, USA
Posts: 3,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by ckamp View Post
Im still waiting for Super Super Record
Not Super-Duper Record?

Tim
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-29-2024, 11:00 AM
fignon's barber's Avatar
fignon's barber fignon's barber is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Gulf Coast Florida
Posts: 2,900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blown Reek View Post
I've been on Campagnolo almost exclusively since 1992. Never really cared for Chorus. To me, it's a bit like 105/Ultegra: a bit too pedestrian. Always been a Record guy, moved to Super Record when it became the top offering.

Like I said...gold plated Colnago.
__________________
BIXXIS Prima
Cyfac Fignon Proxidium
Legend TX6.5
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-29-2024, 11:31 AM
Buzz Killington Buzz Killington is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Rosendale NY
Posts: 409
All of those I'd need to pay 1/2 cash and 1/2 credit card so my wife wouldn't kill me when she saw the credit card statement.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-29-2024, 12:34 PM
ckamp's Avatar
ckamp ckamp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 794
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcteague View Post
Not Super-Duper Record?

Tim
No, that would make too much common sense. Haha
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-29-2024, 02:28 PM
peanutgallery peanutgallery is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: 717
Posts: 4,143
Ultra Record Platinum Recaro edition

Presented by Gucci
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-29-2024, 02:29 PM
cgolvin's Avatar
cgolvin cgolvin is offline
#RYFB
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: The Boss Basin
Posts: 5,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
I think now I'm getting a little confused with the Campag line-up. Have we discussed this here?
Yes, except for the addition of SR S, @gfk_velo gave a complete summary of the full complement of Campy offerings. Alas I'm too lazy to search for it, but I know I've quoted it several times in other threads.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
I thought this was an interesting real-world vid of SR S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lIEd5O5x8
I'd put that video in the 'meh' bin myself. The most interesting question it prompts for me regards the calculus for Campy and its distributors when it comes to doling out samples for YouTubers to test and review. I think they have 320k subs, which sounds like a decent number but I'd also want to know about their engagement (I hate that term) numbers.

My cursory search indicates that the price difference between SR S and Dura-Ace 12 speed is +/-$200. That doesn't seem to warrant their whingeing about price, but maybe it's different in the UK.

Interesting comment from the mechanic about Campy needing to make things easier for bike shops. OTOH, if the reviewers are correct that "nobody rides Campag in the northeast (?)" then perhaps Campy's smart in ignoring those shops.
__________________
Gios Peg Bixxis
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-29-2024, 04:00 PM
Wakatel_Luum's Avatar
Wakatel_Luum Wakatel_Luum is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vittorio, Veneto.
Posts: 1,022
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post

I thought this was an interesting real-world vid of SR S

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lIEd5O5x8
I don't really rate this review much at all, it appears to contradict the reviews I have seen from owners and users of Campagnolo Wireless.
__________________
Call me Greg.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-29-2024, 04:20 PM
Bob Ross's Avatar
Bob Ross Bob Ross is offline
Registered (ab)User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Tucson AZ
Posts: 4,604
Quote:
Originally Posted by cgolvin View Post
"nobody rides Campag in the northeast (?)"
I realize this is purely anecdotal, but fwiw when I lived & rode in New York City I knew at least a dozen other cyclists who had Campy. Been living & riding in Arizona now for 3 or 4 years and I've still only met one other cyclist with Campy here.

:shrugs:
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.