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Something ain't right. The first photo on Brooks own Cambium saddle page is, yup, a muddy cross racer:
http://www.brooksengland.com/cambium/ |
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How does your t'aint look??
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It's probably because I'm so old but I have to wonder what effect this pounding had on your "parts".
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Also, if anyone out there buys a Cambium in the near future, apparently if you go on Brooks website you can extend the warranty from 2 years to the usual 10 years! |
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It's all about marketing... SRAM marketed their products for racing back when they hit the road in 2007 hard and sponsored pro teams and all that.. but at least those first few years any racing at all voided the warranty. Maybe the Brooks saddles are intended to make you feel like a racer but they don't expect you to actually race. (I know that seems to make little sense since they seemingly started these saddles as an invite-only thing and put them under racers butts to make everyone think they were super cool.)
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Sorry, but I think that cross is well outside the scope of expected usage for a bicycle saddle. I'm happy if my saddles for cross last a season. Warrantying a saddle used for cross seems like complaining that your car racing tires wear out in 140 miles...
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Not saying you should get to warranty them but most don't break, and these are expensive right? Cross mounts aren't that rough or the rider would get hurt. Cross is riding a bike and getting on and off it. It's hard to argue that's "well outside the scope of expected usage for a bike saddle."
Last edited by benb; 01-05-2016 at 03:52 PM. |
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Yeah, but in fairness you said you were using "it for work" as a courier. So you could be putting more wear on the saddle in a week than most people would do in a year. Especially mounting hard. Kind of like running a residential lawn mower in commercial service. A commercial outfit might put 60 hours on a mower in a good summer week. Most homeowners will put 25 hours on a tractor a year. So yeah, if you use the saddle that hard you might break it. |
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Yeah, and if it makes it to dinner time, it has met the expectation for them.
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How often during a Grand Tour is a given bike's chain swapped out for a new one? Probably a bit more often than we change ours. |
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Brooks Cambium Fail
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Every material has a fatigue life. Some uses essentially put no fatigue on the part. Think of an aircraft in straight and level flight. Almost zero fatigue on the main structure. But, put the same airframe into a 7G turn and fatigue builds fast. One minute at 7G might put more wear on a component than 1000 hours straight and level. And one hard mount might put more strain on a saddle than 100 or a 1000 regular mounts. So multiply that across a working courier mounting and I mounting dozens of times a day and I can see how that leads to failure. I don't think it's a product defect, it's just an unusual amount of hard use on the product that is cycling it past its normal range and causing failure. |
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