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Old 05-01-2024, 07:26 AM
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Tall stack height bike options?

Shoulder surgery and deteriorating cartilage has me looking for a compliant riding bike with tall stack height in the 52-53 frame size, prefer ti and
2x compatible, more road than off road focus for handling (Crux is a good example). Ability to run 27.5 a bonus but 700 x 40-42 primary.

No saddle to bar drop or even a bit above saddle at this point. Modifications made so far haven't been ideal.
- Moots Routt 45
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Old 05-01-2024, 07:59 AM
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Don't fear headset spacers or 30 degrees inverted stems.
Carbon steerers are not going to snap on you.
You may only need a new fork on your current bike for a while.
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:39 AM
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52-53cm isn't what I'd call a tall stack height. In some brands, that might be shorter than the smallest frame size. I'd think that you'd also have a seat tube length and/or stand over height in mind. To get a complete picture of fit, you need stack, reach and seat tube angle.

For the most part, comfort is going to come from wide tires run at fairly low pressure, as recommended by the pressure calculator at zipp.com.

I've been looking at frames that can handle wide tires. The smallest size Cervelo has a 524mm stack in the smallest size. I agree that a flipped up stem is an option to avoid a higher priced custom. Plus 6 is about 20mm higher than a minus 6 stem.

https://lynskeyperformance.com/gr300...cable-routing/

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Old 05-01-2024, 08:44 AM
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52-53cm isn't what I'd call a tall stack height. In some brands, that might be shorter than the smallest frame size. I'd think that you'd also have a seat tube length and/or stand over height in mind. To get a complete picture of fit, you need stack, reach and seat tube angle.
My interpretation of her original request was she wants a frame that is sized in the 52-53 range, but with a tall stack height, not a frame with a 52 -53 stack height.
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Old 05-01-2024, 09:57 AM
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My interpretation of her original request was she wants a frame that is sized in the 52-53 range, but with a tall stack height, not a frame with a 52 -53 stack height.
^This
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:13 AM
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Carver...or Red Shift

Carver can build exactly what you want. He knows geometry.

https://carverbikes.com/frames/custom-titanium/

Red Shift can provide stack via their weird bars in two different heights:

https://redshiftsports.com/products/...YaAt2lEALw_wcB

Or Soma Condor bars too:

https://www.somafab.com/archives/pro...or-2-handlebar
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:27 AM
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What about Specialized Roubaix? The FutureShock raises the stack up so it might get where you need it, and the suspension may help with your shoulder. The new SL8 has the tire clearance you're after. Not Ti but checks your other boxes; road focused and 2x compatible.
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:38 AM
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Cannot help much with frame options, but hover bars may offer some assistance.
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Old 05-01-2024, 11:21 AM
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At the risk of offending purists, as a tall stack needing person, this is how I am running my Supersix - Kalloy Uno 17 degree stem flipped up. It's a frameset with a 55cm ETT, like my Bingham, but with 551mm of stack instead of the 603mm of the Bingham. But the contact points are the same.

Even if you go custom (or production) this is a very low cost experiment to ensure your next bike is what really works for you. There's no other realistic way I could ride a Supersix...which I really enjoy doing
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Old 05-01-2024, 10:51 PM
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Check out Seeker ADV, Chris McGovern is doing steel and ti bikes with plenty of stack.
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Old 05-02-2024, 07:57 AM
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At the risk of offending purists, as a tall stack needing person, this is how I am running my Supersix - Kalloy Uno 17 degree stem flipped up. It's a frameset with a 55cm ETT, like my Bingham, but with 551mm of stack instead of the 603mm of the Bingham. But the contact points are the same.

Even if you go custom (or production) this is a very low cost experiment to ensure your next bike is what really works for you. There's no other realistic way I could ride a Supersix...which I really enjoy doing
20 years ago my lbs did the same kind of thing for me. He put some kind of head tube extender in, then put a stem on which angles up like yours. I was coming off two spine surgeries. Worked fine. I adapted to handling fine. Since then, I am much more limber but that was a low cost fix. At the time that was my 1st "real " road bike. I did not know any different, just knew it worked.
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Old 05-02-2024, 02:54 PM
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I personally went with a custom Seven to get a tall head tube and short seat tube so that I could have my bars and saddle at the same height and enough standover on my 53cm frame. This was after years and years of trying to get a stock frame to fit correctly. As I am sure you know, stock frames fit people with generic builds and can rarely account for medical issues.

As others have mentioned, try turning your stem upside down and maybe work in a pair of these bars.
Specialized Hover Expert Alloy Handlebars – 15mm Rise
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/ho...=230548-156001

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Old 05-02-2024, 10:49 PM
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Not only can going custom solve this need for you, ya'll can partner on a variety of other custom bits: extra stand over? extra water bottle placement? Choose your color/design. Tweak geo if needed. A plethora of reasons that could make going cutom fun and rewarding.

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Old 05-12-2024, 04:59 PM
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TALL Stack/Reach Ratio

I had been on the lookout for a similar frame for different reasons. Its not Ti, but it is the most relaxed ratio that I have found. Talking about the Black Mountain Cycles Mod.Zero ..

I was pretty much sold already when I brought it up against my current bikes on bike insights . com ..

but then Mike Varley (designer, owner operator of BMC) ran an insane deal on these.. actually a few deals. one of which included a whisky carbon fork plus the original steel fork for a fraction of the retail.. again, not Ti, but in lieu of a custom frame, this is one of the few off the shelf models that I am aware of that puts this much emphasis on stack.

It also hits all the other marks you suggested in terms of tire size, 1x an 2x compatibility. Also works with many modern components and you would probably have a lot of compatible parts in a bin somewhere. good luck
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Old 05-13-2024, 08:25 AM
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What about Specialized Roubaix? The FutureShock raises the stack up so it might get where you need it, and the suspension may help with your shoulder. The new SL8 has the tire clearance you're after. Not Ti but checks your other boxes; road focused and 2x compatible.
Came here to suggest this.
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