Modern bar for 7700 group?

[Epicus07]

I’m restoring a 90s Davidson and with a beautiful Dura Ace 7700 group. Id like a more modern style transition to the hoods. Most of the examples i see feature a steep downslope or significant bar rotation to get flatish. Can I get flat and still reach the levers ?

[RWL2222]

Well you got your Soma Hwy 1 and the Nitto Noodle and that’s kind of it, unless you want to go with some sort of wonky quill 31.8 stem. This is not a great shot, but shows the Hwy 1 shape (with 6400 levers).

[Old School]

Originally Posted by RWL2222

Well you got your Soma Hwy 1 and the Nitto Noodle and that’s kind of it, unless you want to go with some sort of wonky quill 31.8 stem. This is not a great shot, but shows the Hwy 1 shape (with 6400 levers).

I like my Hwy Ones, and I have a set I polished (26mm) on one bike.

[hernium]

If you don't mind the lack of a chrome finish, I used the Deda Piega bars to complete my neo-retro De Rosa SLX build. They have the modern Deda RHM shape, but with a 130 drop, for 26.0mm clamps. They work very well with the new Shimano R8000 shifters.

https://dedaelementi.com/piega-handlebar

[hernium]

This is as best a photo I have on me at the moment, will be the weekend when I am reunited with my bike.

[rwsaunders]

Quill stem?

[Epicus07]

It’s a 1in threadless. Currently have a Nitto stem (26.0) and noodles. I’ll play with the angles again.

[shoota]

Originally Posted by Epicus07

It’s a 1in threadless. Currently have a Nitto stem (26.0) and noodles. I’ll play with the angles again.

Sounds like you want a compact bar, which the Noodle is not. Nitto makes other compact models though, like the M151.

[Epicus07]

It’s not about the compact nature. I actually like the noodle in general. I want a flat ramp to the hoods. This means rotating the bars back which angles the levers in a way that makes it harder to reach the brakes in the drop without angling my wrists.

[benb]

It should be fine and doesn't require anything special IIRC. You're just moving the hoods down on the bars and then angling the bars up. But you need to be careful to get it just right, and maybe you need a different reach to the bars to accomplish it. A lot of the bars back then had a much bigger reach built into the bars, and that would get even more extreme if you were setting the bike up in the modern way. The first bike I had setup that way was a quill stem and I think I ended up riding much less drop than a modern bike to make up for the extra reach with the bigger handlebar, then I rode in the drops a lot more to get low.

I basically always had to set my handlebar/hood interface up in the modern style and I had both 105 and D/A of that era (and maybe I had Ultegra too?) and I could always make it work.

I could never do the "bar angling down and hood angling up" thing, my hand just could not fit in there comfortably at all. The first road bike I got came setup that way and I almost instantly had severe pain in my hands (like nerve pain level?) and went back to the LBS and they set the bars up with a flat ramp to the hoods and I was immediately good to go.

[lorenbike]

Originally Posted by shoota

Sounds like you want a compact bar, which the Noodle is not. Nitto makes other compact models though, like the M151.

I've messed around with bars more than anyone should over the past year so you're in luck...

Nitto M106/151 are my favorite drop bars currently. The regular 151 model is a 26.0 stem and Neat M106 SSB are a 31.8 stem. If I remember those model numbers correctly. Both have the same shape and are measured at the hooks with maybe a few slight degrees of flare. So marked size 40cm is 40cm at the hooks and about 39cm at the ramps. Nice flat ramps, and comfortable in the drops. I dislike old skool bars with deep drop, long reach, and sloping ramps.

Currently I have the M106 on a modernish road bike (modern Shimano brifters, threadless stem), M151 on a neoretro road (quill stem, modern brifters), and noodles on my commuter bike (tall quill stem to get the bars up, aero levers). I like the 106/151s more than the Noodles for what it's worth.

[Old School]

Originally Posted by lorenbike

Nitto M106/151 are my favorite drop bars and I currently have a couple of pairs. The regular 151 model is 26.0 stem and 106 Neat SSB are 31.8 stem. If I remember those numbers correctly. Both have the same shape and are measured at the hooks with maybe a few slight degrees of flare. So size 40cm is 40cm at the hooks and about 39cm at the ramps. I've used on neo retro builds with aero levers and my modern build with 105 brifters. I too dislike old skool bar with long ramps, deep drops, and sloping ramps.

I did get a 44, but 42 next time.

[Mr steel]

I compliled a list of modern geo bars for 26mm clamp some time ago, can highly recommend the nitto m106

Deda 215
Drop: 142 - Reach: 86

Deda Newton
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Deda Piega
Drop: 143 - Reach: 87

Deda Speciale 26
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Bontrager SSR VR-C
Drop: 125 - Reach: 85

Soma Highway One
Drop: 130 - Reach: 75

Nitto M106 NAS
rop: 128 - Reach: 78

Nitto M151f
Drop: 128- Reach: 76

Origin-8 Pro-lite Compact
Drop: 120 - Reach: 70

Civia Emerson
Drop: 128 - Reach: 80

Tranz X Alloy
Drop: 140 - Reach: 90

Procraft Road Pro Compact
Drop: 125 - Reach: 70

[RWL2222]

Nice list—thanks for that

Originally Posted by Mr steel

I compliled a list of modern geo bars for 26mm clamp some time ago, can highly recommend the nitto m106

Deda 215
Drop: 142 - Reach: 86

Deda Newton
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Deda Piega
Drop: 143 - Reach: 87

Deda Speciale 26
Drop: 135 - Reach: 80

Bontrager SSR VR-C
Drop: 125 - Reach: 85

Soma Highway One
Drop: 130 - Reach: 75

Nitto M106 NAS
rop: 128 - Reach: 78

Nitto M151f
Drop: 128- Reach: 76

Origin-8 Pro-lite Compact
Drop: 120 - Reach: 70

Civia Emerson
Drop: 128 - Reach: 80

Tranz X Alloy
Drop: 140 - Reach: 90

Procraft Road Pro Compact
Drop: 125 - Reach: 70

[gravelreformist]

I wish manufacturers would more readily supply the ramp angle in their specs. Hard to be certain what you are getting for the critical bar/hood interface without it.