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Old 11-13-2024, 04:00 PM
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Reflections on reflecting

Starting a thread here rather than drifting [an earlier one on a specific brand].

I see lots of cyclists--casual and serious, college students and commuters--riding in dark clothes, with no reflectors or lights. In bright daylight, with the sort of strobe effect of sunlight and shadows, or at night, I find it hard to see them. Aside from lights, the biggest opportunity I see for adding visibility is where there is motion at work--with reflector tape on the rims, and reflectors on the pedals. Next is clothing colors. Yet in the industry it seems safety doesn't sell. I recently outfitted my son's college bike with reflector tape, because I know that he and the friends who use his bike are not going to use the lights I gave him. Yet I rarely (never?) see reflector tape on bikes. Serious riders in all black--on a black bike no less--will do what they want. But if the industry marketing view is that black is what sells, it seems like there's room for innovation to have it both ways.
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Old 11-13-2024, 04:32 PM
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totally agreed. I bought a cheap commuter jacket a bit like this one and its amazing how bright it is when headlights shine on it. I never knew until I was driving and flashed lights on a fellow cyclist wearing a similar jacket - theyre amazing.

Reflective gear is smart.
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Old 11-13-2024, 04:44 PM
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Of course this goes way beyond cyclists, runners, walkers etc. Somehow make it trendy.

Personally I am in yellow (lot of time) Varia 100% time. Added daytime running headlight this time of year.
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Old 11-13-2024, 04:47 PM
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I understand black shorts. I don't understand black anything else.
Especially black jackets and other cold weather gear, which is so much more likely to be used in the dark. My black wind jacket has a bright orange zipper and minor reflectivity elsewhere, but I wish it was a different color, and will soon be purchasing one that is.

Isn't it funny how some will insist on dressing in dark colors because dark = pro, when in fact I can't remember the last time I saw a black or dark World Tour team kit. If they exist, they are few and far between.
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Old 11-13-2024, 05:11 PM
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I'll wear dark on the MTB, but I prefer retina-searing for the road. I have half a drawer full of bright orange and yellow tall socks, a dayglow orange road helmet, and even my MTB helmet is a POC with orange panels. I also have rechargeable lights that I run in the daytime and a powerful headlight for the night.
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Old 11-13-2024, 05:47 PM
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I agree, at night and in the rain dark-clothed runners and cyclists are very hard to see. I have yellow wind and rain jackets, and my Ortlieb pannier bag is bright yellow. On my commuter bike I also have Pirelli Cinturato Velo Road tires, and these are available with a reflective sidewall that is quite visible at night from the side.
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Old 11-13-2024, 05:53 PM
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There is a reason why road construction crews; warehouse workers, etc wear hi-viz reflective gear. They are remarkably more noticeable than dull non-reflective gear.
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Old 11-13-2024, 05:56 PM
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I was supporting a brevet and I caught up to a rider on a dark rural road. I saw their reflective gear before I saw their lights. One thing to keep in mind is that most reflective gear wears out over repeated washing. So the message is, get used to the stink
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Old 11-13-2024, 06:23 PM
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I have a randonneur friend who wears a reflective sash when he rides. I think that’s a great idea.

I will take this opportunity to rant. Raise your hand if you’ve been completely blinded (riding or driving) by police or other emergency strobe lights on the side of the road. They really need to dial those things back. Very dangerous.
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Old 11-13-2024, 06:39 PM
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I am into the black look but always spash with color, at least bike and clothing aesthetically. All of course I always have bright lights flashing or strobe, reflective stuff on kit or bike too. If its a bike I commute on, more reflective strips in key spots.

its true though, as it cools off up here the cooler weather gear comes out and the kit I end up wearing is certanly darker VS summer kits. Aside from my W.A. skin tone.
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Old 11-13-2024, 08:27 PM
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Black is "pro" ? ? Really ? In what alternate universe is that ? Probably the one where helmets are illegal.


The peloton in this one is anything but. Or do I just have an incredibly colored imagination ?

I like to wear colors that the defense attorney will cringe to see submitted as evidence.

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Old 11-13-2024, 10:47 PM
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When commuting at night, I wear a safety vest from this company: https://www.dontgethit.com/reflectivegear.html. I ought to wear ankle bands too.
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Old 11-14-2024, 06:20 AM
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Black is "pro" ? ? Really ? In what alternate universe is that ? ...
In the Rapha universe.
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Old 11-14-2024, 06:35 AM
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When I started doing "dawn patrol" rides my wife insisted I add reflective clothing and tape where I could.

I wear Lululemon reflective socks, have added small pieces if tape to my helmet and shies, try to wear light coloured jerseys and fortunately one of the vests I have from a charity ride is bright yellow and baby blue with a reflective strip on the back.

So I guess I am in the reflective camp. However, I don't ride with lights on during the day.
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Old 11-14-2024, 07:50 AM
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I agree the dark clothes are less than ideal but for a dark rainy winter day I think the bikes really need lights.

There was a lightless cycle commuter ahead of me in traffic yesterday in the pouring rain without a light and I was so concerned for him that if I’d had a spare light I would have given it to him. The bontrager flare type lights are pretty great.

I keep a roll of solas tape handy on my tool bench, put strips on the rims every 4 spokes on every bike in our house.
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