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Old 09-09-2024, 01:31 PM
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No pelotons on bike/walking paths please

Riding along the recreational bike path in Irvine, CA. Wednesday morning, September 4th. A wannabe peloton group coming the opposite direction tries to pass someone, with the leader seeing me coming and doing the whole hand waving thing to the group behind. But one of the riders in that group doesn't see or care about the hand waving and plows right into me during the attempt to pass. I don't remember my fall, but wound up with a concussion, road rash, a severely bruised hip, a cracked $200+helmet and, worse of all, a scratch on my Joe Bell repainted BIXXIS steel bike. Serious money. The bike's at the repair shop now for a post-crash inspection and repair. Gonna be some more money. I'm recovering off the bike now for a couple of weeks at least during the best riding weather of the year.

I should have gotten names and numbers. But I was flat on my back and disoriented. Somehow managed to get up and ride home, which I have no memory of. A couple of cyclists stopped and kindly checked on me. Whoever hit me disappeared.

Wanna play peloton? Stay on the roads and off the recreational bike & walking paths. Thanks.
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Old 09-09-2024, 01:37 PM
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I 100% agree with you. Only I'd be more worried about the concussion than the scratch on the bike.
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Old 09-09-2024, 01:45 PM
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Sorry to hear. The guy(s) just left you there? That borders on criminal.
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Old 09-09-2024, 01:50 PM
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Sorry to hear. The guy(s) just left you there? That borders on criminal.
Wow, this is my takeaway too. I can't imagine slamming into someone on my bike and just riding away! And the rest of the peloton group let it happen? What is wrong with these people??

Wishing you a speedy recovery!
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Old 09-09-2024, 01:56 PM
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having lived in San Diego for 6 yrs, I can tell you that groups of cyclists down in SoCal are "different".. I was riding along the bike path on Hwy 1 one day (just north of Del Mar for those who know) and had a group pass by me at high speed, super close to where I could certainly feel the "draft" as they went by.. now this in itself isn't that big of a deal, the thing I found super interesting was there was zero indication from them that they were coming up and I had no idea they were there until they passed me.. I was probably doing somewhere around 15 mph and they were probably some at least 10 mph faster.. if I would have varied my line a bit, I would have taken the while group down and probably would have been some serious injuries!

I'm just saying, give a rider a "on your left" once in a while!

heal up soon Ciavete!
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Old 09-09-2024, 01:59 PM
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Similar close calls with groups on the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge. Wishing you a quick and complete recovery.
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Old 09-09-2024, 02:04 PM
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having lived in San Diego for 6 yrs, I can tell you that groups of cyclists down in SoCal are "different"..
No, they're not "different", they're clearly the same as groups of cyclists everywhere else in America! I've encountered assholes like this an nearly every state I've cycled.
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Old 09-09-2024, 02:11 PM
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having lived in San Diego for 6 yrs, I can tell you that groups of cyclists down in SoCal are "different".. I was riding along the bike path on Hwy 1 one day (just north of Del Mar for those who know) and had a group pass by me at high speed, super close to where I could certainly feel the "draft" as they went by.. now this in itself isn't that big of a deal, the thing I found super interesting was there was zero indication from them that they were coming up and I had no idea they were there until they passed me.. I was probably doing somewhere around 15 mph and they were probably some at least 10 mph faster.. if I would have varied my line a bit, I would have taken the while group down and probably would have been some serious injuries!

I'm just saying, give a rider a "on your left" once in a while!

heal up soon Ciavete!
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No, they're not "different", they're clearly the same as groups of cyclists everywhere else in America! I've encountered assholes like this an nearly every state I've cycled.
~25 mph on a recreational bike path = no bueno....
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:42 PM
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~25 mph on a recreational bike path = no bueno....
to be fair, my story wasn't on a MUT, but while I was in a bike lane alongside Hwy 1.. I just can't believe how trusting (or don't give a sh*t) of me not to alter my line when I had no idea they were back there..
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Old 09-09-2024, 05:06 PM
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Schuylkill river trail

This happens about weekly on the SRT west of Philadelphia. A pack with heads down hammering BTTW weaving around casual bikers, runners, strollers etc. I would love to take some of them into the Pocono mountains and show them a few uphills and see how fast they are then.
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Old 09-09-2024, 06:51 PM
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Heal fast OP.

And yes, the strava flyby info could be really interesting here, especially if it could pinpoint the group that rode by you. I wonder if anyone's ever subpoena'ed them for that kind of info!

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This happens about weekly on the SRT west of Philadelphia. A pack with heads down hammering BTTW weaving around casual bikers, runners, strollers etc. I would love to take some of them into the Pocono mountains and show them a few uphills and see how fast they are then.
Didn't realize you were a local! Want to show me sometime instead? I'd love checking out some 'kick yer butt' kinda climbs!
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Old 09-09-2024, 02:13 PM
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First and foremost, glad it wasn't worse and good luck healing up quickly.

Good advice from @prototoast regarding local clubs and Strava flybys -- I used flyby to track down the sh*tstain who I encountered recently climbing a one way descent. Though, if successful, I recommend being more diplomatic than I was (not proud of that), especially since you'll be unlikely to single out the individual who hit you.
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:29 PM
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No, they're not "different", they're clearly the same as groups of cyclists everywhere else in America! I've encountered assholes like this an nearly every state I've cycled.
Hearing this makes me appreciate my little part of upstate NY even more.
We don't have too many cyclists and those we have are mostly good natured and caring.
Now jobs and decent weather may be a different story.....
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Old 09-09-2024, 04:34 PM
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Years ago the local Nextdoor was 50% rants about pathletes in lycra, but they've since moved on to spending 100% their time ranting about teenagers on Super73s.

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Old 09-10-2024, 05:58 AM
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Hearing this makes me appreciate my little part of upstate NY even more.

We don't have too many cyclists and those we have are mostly good natured and caring.

Now jobs and decent weather may be a different story.....
+1! Our MUP has a speed limit of 15mph posted in the more densely populated areas to specifically deter this type of riding on them. The faster guys I ride with are out riding on the beautiful roads we have instead of the paths that are designated multi use.

Sorry to hear about this as the group should have stopped and called for some help.

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