Know the rules The Paceline Forum Builder's Spotlight


Go Back   The Paceline Forum > General Discussion

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:13 AM
fourflys's Avatar
fourflys fourflys is offline
Back At It!
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 8,127
Weight Loss Meds (Wegovy, etc)

I know not all of us are not super skinny euro-pro sized riders on here, so has anyone used the current crop of weight loss meds yet?

thanks
__________________
Be the Reason Others Succeed

Last edited by fourflys; 10-17-2024 at 10:22 AM.
  #2  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:17 AM
XXtwindad XXtwindad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 8,499
Interesting topic. I’m curious about the responses.
  #3  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:21 AM
Likes2ridefar Likes2ridefar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 7,418
My opinion is learn to eat properly, exercise more and with variety, and stay away from the drugs. I don’t buy that the majority of the population is incapable of doing this. For those in the minority that can’t, well, I’m not your guy.
  #4  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:33 AM
fourflys's Avatar
fourflys fourflys is offline
Back At It!
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 8,127
Quote:
Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar View Post
My opinion is learn to eat properly, exercise more and with variety, and stay away from the drugs. I don’t buy that the majority of the population is incapable of doing this. For those in the minority that can’t, well, I’m not your guy.
I get what you're saying.. but for someone who is 40# over where they need to be, has PTSD (and all that comes from/with that), and works a full 40 hr a week job with full family requirements as well, it can be difficult at best to do all the things.. not trying to have excuses, but there can be many reasons why these meds could be a great option for someone for a while..
__________________
Be the Reason Others Succeed
  #5  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:42 AM
Likes2ridefar Likes2ridefar is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Arizona
Posts: 7,418
Quote:
Originally Posted by fourflys View Post
I get what you're saying.. but for someone who is 40# over where they need to be, has PTSD (and all that comes from/with that), and works a full 40 hr a week job with full family requirements as well, it can be difficult at best to do all the things.. not trying to have excuses, but there can be many reasons why these meds could be a great option for someone for a while..
Hey aside from ptsd you just described me I work more than 40hrs, and have a daughter in an elite swimming program that is my 2nd job that eats up 5 days a week and 2 plus hours each day.

We cheat a bit and have meal delivery that is healthy and vegetarian but the gym for very basic strength training (xxtwindad convinced me of this, thanks btw), yoga and bike are a priority to ensure I don’t fall apart.

Last edited by Likes2ridefar; 10-17-2024 at 10:45 AM.
  #6  
Old 10-17-2024, 11:03 AM
ColonelJLloyd ColonelJLloyd is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Louisville
Posts: 6,129
Quote:
Originally Posted by fourflys View Post
...but there can be many reasons why these meds could be a great option for someone for a while..
I would be interested in these as well, but even if my doc was on board with it (I have not inquired) there are reasons I'd better do all I can to lose weight without them.

1. Isn't the thing with these meds that they are, in fact, not temporary?

2. I spent a lot of time in the hospitality industry and I'm a trained cook. It's actually a big part of my daily wind down and mental health reset. I nerd out on handmade knives, heirloom cookware, and high-powered flames as much as I do on the bikes and associated tools we all love here on this forum. To take a drug that made me feel sick or worse if I ate some carbs would suck for me personally. And while my love of food is a contributor to why I am overweight it would be terrible if I flipped a switch and that was effectively gone for me.

That said, I can admit that at this point in my life I could use some help with it. My metabolism really changed at 30 and between work, kids, and a job time is hard to come by. So I totally get where you are coming from.
  #7  
Old 10-17-2024, 11:56 AM
fourflys's Avatar
fourflys fourflys is offline
Back At It!
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Posts: 8,127
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd View Post
I would be interested in these as well, but even if my doc was on board with it (I have not inquired) there are reasons I'd better do all I can to lose weight without them.

1. Isn't the thing with these meds that they are, in fact, not temporary?
having not asked this question to the doc specifically, many folks will need to be on a "maintenance dose" for the rest of their like, but not all.. (per some folks who are currently on it)

for sure it would take some deliberate choices once you get to your goal weight to no bounce back, but I imagine it's possible..
__________________
Be the Reason Others Succeed
  #8  
Old 10-17-2024, 12:05 PM
Mikej Mikej is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,043
Get Training Peaks and log your workouts. Try to increase your weekly load within the program to gain fitness. That will help burn calories and track track your progress. Cut out the junk food and unhealthy choices. None of these pharmaceuticals are without side effects so beware.
  #9  
Old 10-17-2024, 12:15 PM
benb benb is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Eastern MA
Posts: 10,603
They still haven't figure out what happens to people with these drugs after 10, 15, 20 years.

Way to many supposedly great drugs have turned out to have way more serious long term effects and then they get pulled off the market.
  #10  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:34 AM
XXtwindad XXtwindad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 8,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by Likes2ridefar View Post
My opinion is learn to eat properly, exercise more and with variety, and stay away from the drugs. I don’t buy that the majority of the population is incapable of doing this. For those in the minority that can’t, well, I’m not your guy.
I totally get where you’re coming from, but this won’t work with morbidly obese people.
  #11  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:39 AM
benb benb is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Eastern MA
Posts: 10,603
It doesn't sound like they are particularly compatible with healthy lifestyle adjustments at the same time.

I don't know anyone active who has tried them but I do know other people my age who have tried them or are still on them.

They work but it's all side effects, lack of energy, and it sounds like plenty of lean muscle mass loss along with the fat.
  #12  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:43 AM
AngryScientist's Avatar
AngryScientist AngryScientist is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: northeast NJ
Posts: 34,053
Quote:
Originally Posted by XXtwindad View Post
I totally get where you’re coming from, but this won’t work with morbidly obese people.
not so fast there josh.

learning to eat properly and exercise more is a good idea for literally everyone.

It may not get everyone down to skin and bones physique, but it sure would get most closer to their "healthy weight", right?
  #13  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:55 AM
EB EB is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: This is a no biking trail, California
Posts: 2,846
Obesity is a disease, not a moral failing. It may not be a curable disease, but these drugs at least treat some of the symptoms.

I do not think they are very relevant to professional sports as the side effects do not seem compatible with world class athletic performance.
  #14  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:56 AM
AngryScientist's Avatar
AngryScientist AngryScientist is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: northeast NJ
Posts: 34,053
Quote:
Originally Posted by EB View Post
Obesity is a disease, not a moral failing. .
C'mon.

There is a big difference between someone who is obese and a middle aged cyclist who has packed on a few too many pounds over the years.
  #15  
Old 10-17-2024, 10:58 AM
EB EB is offline
Meh
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: This is a no biking trail, California
Posts: 2,846
Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryScientist View Post
C'mon.

There is a big difference between someone who is obese and a middle aged cyclist who has packed on a few too many pounds over the years.
I can hear your moral judgement here.
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.