Ot: Ai

[MikeD]

The Nobel prize in physics was awarded to the godfather of AI (Geoffrey Hinton). https://bbc.com/news/articles/c62r02z75jyo. He has warned about the dangers of AI. "He resigned from Google in 2023, and has warned about the dangers of machines that could outsmart humans." Wouldn't that be ironic if AI was the demise of the human race, similar to that Planet of the Apes movie where a cure for Alzheimer disease caused the demise of humans and the takeover by intelligent apes?

[mstateglfr]

AI is physics? Wild.

[unterhausen]

AI isn't going to kill humanity. What's going to kill humanity is people putting AI in charge in ways that it only superficially appears to be suitable. I think a lot of people are finding that out now. For example, try to get comcast to fix any problems for you nowadays, and extrapolate that to launching missiles.

[DrakeRamoray]

The only AI I know is Allen “The Answer” Iverson.

[vav]

Originally Posted by DrakeRamoray

The only AI I know is Allen “The Answer” Iverson.

[Peter P.]

The Economist magazine recently recommended a book which parallels the potential takeover of humans by AI. I'm almost done reading it.

It's titled War With The Newts, by Karel Capek and is translated from Czech by Ewald Osers.

A ship captain discovers these 4ft. tall amphibious creatures near some island. Initially they are trained, then used as labor, then they get smart. As they eventually evolve well...

Speaking of AI, I often call tech support for work purposes. Their automated attendant has gotten more annoying throughout the years. I would enjoy swearing at it as I got more and more frustrated.

I can't do that any more; it recognizes my swearing and hangs up on me.

[HenryA]

Originally Posted by unterhausen

AI isn't going to kill humanity. What's going to kill humanity is people putting AI in charge in ways that it only superficially appears to be suitable. I think a lot of people are finding that out now. For example, try to get comcast to fix any problems for you nowadays, and extrapolate that to launching missiles.

Its a shame that we can’t (won’t) get in front of this with clear rules and laws that allocate responsibility and liability for AI damages. Rather than having everyone running blind we could have established guidelines for people to follow. In my version of the world, users and makers of AI would shoulder the consequences of misfeasance even to the point of being responsible for “mistakes” by their AI efforts.

[echelon_john]

If you’ve watched the House/Senate inquiries into social media, crypto, cloud, etc it’s clear that the government is not capable of understanding current capabilities, let alone future opportunities and risks. To expect it to create guidelines is like expecting a dog to do math beyond N treats is not as good as N+1 treats.

Originally Posted by HenryA

Its a shame that we can’t (won’t) get in front of this with clear rules and laws that allocate responsibility and liability for AI damages. Rather than having everyone running blind we could have established guidelines for people to follow. In my version of the world, users and makers of AI would shoulder the consequences of misfeasance even to the point of being responsible for “mistakes” by their AI efforts.

[Shane4XC]

Originally Posted by echelon_john

If you’ve watched the House/Senate inquiries into social media, crypto, cloud, etc it’s clear that the government is not capable of understanding current capabilities, let alone future opportunities and risks. To expect it to create guidelines is like expecting a dog to do math beyond N treats is not as good as N+1 treats.

You could say the same about the dot com era as well, expansion of banks, etc. Legislation always lags.

[echelon_john]

I am saying that.

Originally Posted by Shane4XC

You could say the same about the dot com era as well, expansion of banks, etc. Legislation always lags.

[HenryA]

Originally Posted by echelon_john

If you’ve watched the House/Senate inquiries into social media, crypto, cloud, etc it’s clear that the government is not capable of understanding current capabilities, let alone future opportunities and risks. To expect it to create guidelines is like expecting a dog to do math beyond N treats is not as good as N+1 treats.

Unfortunately, you are probably right.

[xnetter]

It's also a mega hog of grid power for processing and cooling. I have yet to be impressed any of its capabilities that I've seen so far. AI is a great metaphor for our dumbass arrogant species in general.

KJ

[AngryScientist]

Originally Posted by xnetter

It's also a mega hog of grid power for processing and cooling.

Slight thread drift, but this is something interesting to me.

Recently read this:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1...t-microsoft-ai

Re-opeing a nuc plant to power datacenters. Wow. I had no idea these things were SO power hungry.

I dont really know much about the tech, what is it that eats so much MWs ?

[MikeD]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Slight thread drift, but this is something interesting to me.

Recently read this:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1...t-microsoft-ai

Re-opeing a nuc plant to power datacenters. Wow. I had no idea these things were SO power hungry.

I dont really know much about the tech, what is it that eats so much MWs ?

And your electric rates go up to pay for it all (add Crypto and EV'S to that as well).

[verticaldoug]

Originally Posted by AngryScientist

Slight thread drift, but this is something interesting to me.

Recently read this:

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1...t-microsoft-ai

Re-opeing a nuc plant to power datacenters. Wow. I had no idea these things were SO power hungry.

I dont really know much about the tech, what is it that eats so much MWs ?

Scale and concentration. 62% if Cloud is provided by the big 3 (AWS, AZURE, GCP)

I think AWS has 33mm sq ft of Data center which is equivalent to 500 football pitches packed with Servers, cabling, redundancy considerations, cooling considerations. The SOTA of GPUs are so densely packed, it generates so much excess heat.

AI is part of it, and may have turbocharged the growth, but this has been a thing with Cloud providers for a while.

The Nvidia H100 GPU consumes 700 W of power which is probably equivalent to the average american home. NVDA plan to ship 2mm year. So think of it as building 2mm homes.

Zuckerberg just bought 350,000 H100s for Meta. That's 350,000 houses. A pretty good sized american city there (you still haven't bought the airconditioners yet)