OT new perspective on curing some cancers

[Kingfisher]

Guys, take 30 minutes to watch this and tell me what you think. I’m sure there are some physicians on this forum


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikSlMl...B1bmRlcmJlbGx5

[robt57]

There are MNRA vacvine trials happening currently for some cancers FYI. Perhaps this may be future care direction.

[mstateglfr]

Originally Posted by robt57

There are MNRA vacvine trials happening currently for some cancers FYI. Perhaps this may be future care direction.

I listened to a grounded and sane podcast about mnra cancer trial - it was fascinating. The info was research based and walked thru the process from starting years ago up to now.

[fmradio516]

Originally Posted by mstateglfr

I listened to a grounded and sane podcast about mnra cancer trial - it was fascinating. The info was research based and walked thru the process from starting years ago up to now.

Got a link?

[benb]

Listened to a good Podcast "One Year" about Laetrile in the 1970s recently:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...t-seeds-cancer

Now it's coming back.. basically the original fraudulent supplement for curing cancer.

[bigbill]

Originally Posted by benb

Listened to a good Podcast "One Year" about Laetrile in the 1970s recently:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...t-seeds-cancer

Now it's coming back.. basically the original fraudulent supplement for curing cancer.

My maternal grandmother was on Laetrile in the mid-70s in an attempt to treat her liver cancer. She died in 74. Her doctor had his license suspended and moved to Mexico. My stepfather had multiple cancers and agreed to experimental treatments, knowing none would cure him, but as an engineer, he supported the research. When he died, his body was studied by numerous labs to measure any effects of the meds. I'm not sure what they learned.

[robt57]

Originally Posted by mstateglfr

I listened to a grounded and sane podcast about mnra cancer trial - it was fascinating. The info was research based and walked thru the process from starting years ago up to now.

Unfortunately why this is on our radar is my wife being in treatment currently. And the sited trial is not for her NSCLC EGFR mutation she has. But we hope a trial for that exactly may become a reality.

My readings makes me really think [hope?] this may become mainstream for cancer treatment. But getting ahead of myself, it is just in trials.

[nmrt]

We've been studying H2O2 and its effect on cancer since the 1950s. Here's a screenshot of a paper in Nature from 1958.

I am not sure if you guys can access this paper (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...s-16-02171.pdf) but it is a good review on how the cancer research field is aware of using reactive oxygen species (ROS), such as H2O2, and agents can cause its increase, in combating cancer. Various chemotherapeutic and radiotherapeutic agents cause an increase in ROS to cause cancer cell death.

But in a nutshell, cancer is obviously not as easy to cure as the guy in the video with his anecdotes seems to make by using H2O2 and Q-tips.

Originally Posted by Kingfisher

Guys, take 30 minutes to watch this and tell me what you think. I’m sure there are some physicians on this forum


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ikSlMl...B1bmRlcmJlbGx5

[fmradio516]

Bumping this... sure - take it with a grain of salt, but everyone should watch this right now.

[Nomadmax]

I'm a two time cancer survivor, renal cell carcinoma and non Hodgkins lymphoma, having just finished chemo the first part of this year. For me to try drinking hydrogen peroxide I'd have to be basically in the same position as if I'd fallen off a skyscraper and cupped my hands and flapped my arms like wings.

I can't tell you how many times otherwise intellgent people have told me, "You know they have a cure for cancer but they're making too much money to release it".

Great doctors and medicine has saved my life three times. I sticking with that.

[Spaghetti Legs]

Well unfortunately I’ve now polluted my YouTube algorithm.

[Permanent socks]

Originally Posted by Nomadmax

I can't tell you how many times otherwise intellgent people have told me, "You know they have a cure for cancer but they're making too much money to release it".

Great doctors and medicine has saved my life three times. I sticking with that.

Western medicine is great. Inspite the fact that it is 100% reactive and the pharmaceutical industry makes 10s of billions of dollars selling meds that try to mitigate the side effects of the primary prescription.

No one who funds medical research wants to get rid of what they're researching. They want to patent a drug and sell other drugs with it.

Kind.of like people who work with solving the homeless crisis. Why would you eliminate the source of your wealth?

[jimcav]

Originally Posted by Permanent socks

Western medicine is great. Inspite the fact that it is 100% reactive and the pharmaceutical industry makes 10s of billions of dollars selling meds that try to mitigate the side effects of the primary prescription.

No one who funds medical research wants to get rid of what they're researching. They want to patent a drug and sell other drugs with it.

Kind.of like people who work with solving the homeless crisis. Why would you eliminate the source of your wealth?

You left off a smiley face. Lots of medical research has solved or cured conditions that had huge costs. polio, TB, so many infections and their consequences (scarlet fever, many STD’s) CF, Sickle Cell, they all had years of research to get to definitive treatment or outright cures.

[Novasfyre]

Originally Posted by jimcav

You left off a smiley face. Lots of medical research has solved or cured conditions that had huge costs. polio, TB, so many infections and their consequences (scarlet fever, many STD’s) CF, Sickle Cell, they all had years of research to get to definitive treatment or outright cures.

But think of the children! Not those children. Or those ones. Ok, just stop thinking of the children, you keep focusing on the ones who are alive because of vaccines and medicine.

[paredown]

This was the article last week that I found partlicularly interesting--that a significant percentage of cancers start as infections. [share; no paywall]

Most cases of stomach cancer are caused by bacteria. A majority of cervical cancers, as well as some genital and oral cancers, are caused by a virus. And certain chronic viral infections can lead to liver cancer.

Infections like these account for an estimated 13 percent of all cancer cases globally, according to a new report published Wednesday by the American Association for Cancer Research. But knowing which infections can lead to cancer means scientists also have a good idea how to prevent them from ever getting that far: There are effective vaccines and medications to prevent and treat these infections, and they can be detected early on through screening.

Seems like these would be easy to control, and prevent rather than treat...


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/w...smid=url-share