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Old 09-20-2024, 07:55 PM
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I hate chain whips...

I have the abbey chain whip. I still hate it. Always seems just on the verge of out of control and smashed knuckles when I use it to remove a particularly stuck lockring.

My shop has, as all good shops should, a sturdy workbench and bench vise.

Is there anything out there that would allow me to clamp a cassette securely into a vise and easily remove a lockring?

I've seen and considered the vise-grip style pliers, but they dont seem long enough to have enough leverage to get the job done. Perhaps I could use them and clamp them in the bench vise?

Anything out there that I'm not aware of maybe?
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:11 PM
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I have a couple of normal ones...

and have often wondered if the pliers-type might be the better:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-CP-.../dp/B07PWH38ZJ
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:51 PM
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and have often wondered if the pliers-type might be the better:

https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-CP-.../dp/B07PWH38ZJ
yeah I have this and take cassettes off for fun
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Old 09-20-2024, 11:09 PM
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Are you hamfisting the lock ring on there? Maybe not so tight and a tab of grease would do the trick.

I also use a huge/heavy pipe wrench on the lock ring tool when unscrewing. It seems to be almost effortless. I don’t ever have instances where you’re pushing like crazy and all of the sudden it lets go. I’ve had that happen plenty with small wrenches.
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Old 09-21-2024, 08:42 AM
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:11 PM
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I like the pin style ones like Pro makes but you're limited to two tooth sizes per tool.
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/us/tool...assette-wrench
Stein makes one too
https://steintool.com/portfolio-item...-holding-tool/

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Old 09-20-2024, 08:14 PM
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Chain whips

Angry, I started using the Park Tools CP-1.2 chain pliers. I do not have very big hands and I do not have a mighty grip for sure, but the pliers work great for me if I keep it down on the small cogs. These are a hundred times better than the old whip in my opinion. No more bleeding knuckles! I would never go back to the old whip. Worth every penny in my opinion.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:17 PM
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Pedro's Vise Whip. Love mine.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:20 PM
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I've been using the Pedro's Vice Whip since it was a pre-production product with Zinn's name on it. It is far superior to a chain whip for me. 8 - 12 speed cassettes - it works for all of them. Oh, and single speed setups too.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:24 PM
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Another recommendation for the Pedros vise whip. So much better to use than a chain whip.
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:26 PM
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Chain whip fan here.

You’re making me think I don’t understand the situation you’re complaining about. I’ve had freewheels corrosion welded onto hubs before but I’ve never had a problem with freehub lock rings.

I’m going to assume you know what you’re doing so I guess I’ve never seen a lock ring that is anything like that stuck. Line up the two tools and squeeze? In what way does the process involve my knuckles?
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Old 09-20-2024, 08:41 PM
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Stein

https://steintool.com/portfolio-item...-holding-tool/
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:01 PM
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^^^^ The Stein tool. I’m a convert. Read about this tool in a bike packing dot com editor’s list. Now I have one and my chain whip is gone. I’m a big fan of Abbey Tools but not of chain whips.
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Old 09-20-2024, 10:23 PM
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I have a Pedro’s version of that stein tool that must be 20 years old. Must pop up for cheap used for cheap I’d think.
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Old 09-21-2024, 09:06 AM
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I have a Pedro’s version of that stein tool that must be 20 years old. Must pop up for cheap used for cheap I’d think.
I've also go the Pedros tool, and it works great. Similar tools are also made by Unior and Pro Bikegear:

https://uniorusa.com/products/casset...c&gad_source=1
https://www.pro-bikegear.com/us/tool...assette-wrench
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