So why would Chorus make me happier than Veloce

[Fishbike]

I have bikes. Lots of bikes. Too many bikes. My philosophy has pretty much been buy great frames and build them up with mid-level parts. I usually play in the Veloce/Centaur/105/Ultegra/Rival world. It all works great.

So now I have a special frame -- a Pegoretti Responsorium. I am tempted to buy a CHorus groupset. But Veloce works so darn well and looks quite good and costs less than half. I have never really cared much about weight. I don't care about image. What are the real advantages of CHorus?

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Fishbike

I have bikes. Lots of bikes. Too many bikes. My philosophy has pretty much been buy great frames and build them up with mid-level parts. I usually play in the Veloce/Centaur/105/Ultegra/Rival world. It all works great.

So now I have a special frame -- a Pegoretti Responsorium. I am tempted to buy a CHorus groupset. But Veloce works so darn well and looks quite good and costs less than half. I have never really cared much about weight. I don't care about image. What are the real advantages of CHorus?

11s, UT shifting, UT crank.

I'd say get an all aluminum Athena group-that would like great.

[thirdgenbird]

I prefer ultra shift and ultra torque vs power shift and power torque. The extra cog is an added bonus.

Current state, I would consider an Athena chorus mix. If you could find NOS ultra torque and ultra shift veloce or centaur parts then I would consider that route.

[thirdgenbird]

It looks like oldpotato and I are on the same page today. An all alloy Athena group would be ideal, but again, I would look for the "ultra" parts

[Mr Cabletwitch]

I had a Veloce group and a chorus group both were new around 2000. I sold the veloce group off with a bike and after 3-5k miles it just didn't perform crisp anymore. The Chorus group is still being used by me on my main road bike and performs just like the day it was new with about the same mileage.

[aoe]

What oldpotatoe said, 11s and ultra. Get 2010 Athena alloy and you still get ultra.

[summilux]

Do you really need that 11th cog? Nothing says "special" more than 10s Record alloy. Guaranteed to make you happier than either Chorus, Athena or Veloce.

[Joachim]

Originally Posted by aoe

What oldpotatoe said, 11s and ultra. Get 2010 Athena alloy and you still get ultra.

2010 Athena Alloy ultrashift exists? I thought 2009-2010 Athena Ultrashift only came in wrapped carbon over alloy.

[kohlboto]

Originally Posted by Joachim

2010 Athena Alloy ultrashift exists? I thought 2009-2010 Athena Ultrashift only came in wrapped carbon over alloy.

they (Alloy Athena 11 speed UT shifters) don't exist...I went through this a few months back...Picked up a pair of UT Carbon wrapped Athena shifters from Velomine.

[choke]

Originally Posted by Joachim

2010 Athena Alloy ultrashift exists? I thought 2009-2010 Athena Ultrashift only came in wrapped carbon over alloy.

I believe that there were some black alloy Ultrashift but the silver ones are Powershift.

[Joachim]

Thats what I thought. Athena Ultrashift does not exist in silver (unless personally modified).

[Bkat]

If it were me, I'd be content with either Chorus or Athena, but it's worth the step-up from Veloce for a bike like a Pegoretti.

[oldpotatoe]

Originally Posted by Joachim

2010 Athena Alloy ultrashift exists? I thought 2009-2010 Athena Ultrashift only came in wrapped carbon over alloy.

You sir, are correct.

2011/12 Athena has the all aluminum but Powershift. I gots in on my lugged steel Waterford, it works just great.

[terry]

With that frame I'd go for at least chorus, try it you'll like it.

[handsomerob]

Originally Posted by summilux

Nothing says "special" more than 10s Record alloy.

A 10spd Record "alloy" group is a myth. It is a mash up of carbon and alloy at best. As far as I'm concerned 1st gen Record 10spd could have taken a lesson from Solomon... two parts are not as good as one whole.

10spd Chorus "alloy" is rare and expensive but exists for bikes like a Respo.