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Old 10-11-2016, 09:54 PM
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Ahem...what weighing scale do you use exactly?

So I keep hearing pals quoting how much their bikes weigh....16 Ibs flat...15 pounds without even trying .....er.......14.5 p.o.u.n.d.s soaking wet ...really? I mean, really? what did y'all get all those numbers? which planet do you live on, does it have the same gravitational pull as the earth?

I did a bit of a test myself earlier...here's what I got.

Serotta Steel
20 Ibs 9 oz

Custom Steel
22 13

Eddy Merckx MX Leader
21 12

This is the "weight wennie" of the lot...

Cyfac Carbon
17 12
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:55 PM
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You can shave a pound on that cyfac with a lighter cockpit and carbon wheels
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:58 PM
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You can shave a pound on that cyfac with a lighter cockpit and carbon wheels
I see where you are goin'...
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:15 PM
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My wife's steel Indy Fab weighs 17 12. But it's a lot smaller than your bikes.

My touring bike weighs 28 pounds and I don't care.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:25 PM
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My car is about 1950 pounds, engine included. My bike is about 175 pounds, engine included.
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:38 PM
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20.28 pounds.

953 lugged 61cm steel frame, 531 steel fork, heavy wheels and saddle.

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Old 10-11-2016, 10:58 PM
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I've always weighed my bikes by lifting them onto my shoulder. Some of them are lighter than others, but they're all just as fun!
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:47 PM
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I've always weighed my bikes by lifting them onto my shoulder. Some of them are lighter than others, but they're all just as fun!
I have been perfectly happy not picking up my bikes at all until we went to the beach and I carried my bike up 8 flights of stairs every day. Wow is that thing heavy -- even before the stairs start. Might get me off my butt to make a replacement frame. Actually, I had forgotten how heavy it is until this thread.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:58 PM
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this is like asking a vampire what their favorite mirror is
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:38 AM
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I get a kick out of people that preen about their wheels that weigh..whatever...w/o QRs, tires, tubes, cogset..WHOgas..but some do..

lessee..'average cyclist weighs somewhere in the 83 THOUSAND gram range, naked. Add clothes....and then state quite proudly, my bike weighs 15.5 pounds...about 1% of the total..yawn...and gonna spend $zillions to reduce the weigh by 400 grams....on this 90,000 gram package...yikes and yeegads.

But, yer $, go ahead..and remember, only 2 things you can really measure about a bike, in the wild, weight and price..
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:45 AM
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If I'm not going to race it, it doesn't matter too much (within reason).

My race bike is about 17 with race wheels, Mrs. TR's is about 16 1/2 with race wheels, race tandem is about 23 1/2 with race wheels. All of them have alloy bars and stems. I check weights on them because weight has an effect on placing and that is how we measure success in a race.

All the other bikes just weigh what they weigh and it doesn't matter because the goals are different.

Somehow, my training bike sometimes gains a few pounds on a ride, those are usually better rides
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:39 AM
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This is the "weight wennie" of the lot...

Cyfac Carbon
17 12
My SRM crankset (Cannondale SI), with computer, mount, harness, chainrings, chainring bolts, BB, BB bearings, is 577g. It's very light compared to other cranks but it also has a good Q factor and it's pretty stiff.



Frame is 1200g bare, no fork etc. Aluminum.

My bike weights with different wheels. I weighed using kg, scale is good to 0.01 kg, and converted (454g/lbs) to pounds. No bottles. I don't remember if I had the SRM computer on the bars but I think I did. Note the massive difference in weight between the tubulars and the Jets (they wheels basically share hubs, spokes, spoke count, cassette type, so the difference is only rims/tires/tubes/etc).

Clinchers:
With Bastognes, 7.72 kg / 17.0 lbs
With Jets, 8.62 kg / 18.98 lbs

Tubulars:
With the Stinger 7/9 setup weighs 7.35 kg or 16.19 lbs.
With the Stinger 6 wheels weighs 7.20 kg or 15.85 lbs.

A few times I've checked out other rider's bikes in the parking lot before races. I remember two guys, teammates. One bike was sooooo light, it was 12 lbs I think, with medium aero wheels. He says, that's nothing, check out the teammate's bike. Even lighter! 10 lbs. But no aero wheels. I was beyond shocked. But then in the race they didn't do as well. I'm good with my bike with tubulars. With the Jets not so good. Apparently there's some cusp for me where it gets just a bit too much.

For a few years we had registration in the same place where Cannondale had many of their bikes photographed (no longer, from what I understand). We got to touch/feel/life the new secret SRAM Red bike, it was in the 10 lbs range. Nothing was tight on it, literally touching the saddle caused it to twist and drop, so no riding. What's funny (to me) is that the catalog pictures show the frame with a different color stripe from the actual bike. Photoshop.
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:47 AM
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I don't really know. I had my custom ciocc weighed at build, and it was 18.6 sans pedals. My other bikes are either heavier or lighter than that one.

My cervelo s3 used to weigh around 17, but things have changed on it (and I don't ride it anymore).

My seven feels the lightest, especially since I shod it with enves, but I don't know what any of them weight really.

Heck, I don't even know what I weigh, come to think of it.
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Old 10-12-2016, 07:52 AM
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i dont own a scale, but i stopped by the lbs with my new aluminum pegoretti, just out of curiosity and threw it on their scale. 16.5# with eurus wheels and a heavish cockpit. i think that's pretty respectable.

if we're talking modern road bicycles built with modern groups and wheels, i think the realistic weight range is between 14 and 21#.

that's roughly a 7 pound swing between walking into a bike shop and buying a tarmac built with sram red or a low end giant aluminum road bike built with tiagra.

price difference is about $800 for the giant to about $8,000 for the tarmac.

so, to conclude - to lose 7 pounds at the LBS, you need to spend about $7,200 !!

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Old 10-12-2016, 07:59 AM
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lightest I ever got to was in the low 16 lbs range. carbon road frame, Force 22 group, Zipp FC 303 tubs, DA 7900 pedals, carbon cages, aluminum bars/stem, entry-lever Fizik Arione. sure, I could go lighter by going to carbon bars/stem, lighter saddle and Red 22. but that's about $2k just to shave off half a pound. meh, not worth it. that's damn light already!

in fact, since I only race cross and just "train" on the road, I'd argue that a heavier road bike is actually better. same basic build on my cross bike, but with a Ti frame, is just over 17lbs. and there, I actually care about a lighter bike, since I've gotta hoist it onto my shoulder and/or run with it over barriers every lap. plus get it up to speed from a near-dead stop and go up nearly-unrideable steep hills with it, etc.

so, how someone gets to 16 or less lbs "without even trying" is beyond me. unless by that they mean "I didn't use any super exotic, weight weenie-level stuff." i.e. they didn't spend any time at fairwheelbikes.com or similar, but did spend A LOT on their bike still.
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