$26,995 Serotta

[Bob Ross]

Originally Posted by Hilltopperny

If I were a one bike to rule them all kinda guy it would be my only drop bar bike.

Ha-ha, I see what you did there!

[Flinch]

Originally Posted by PaulE

Can the $27k be escrowed until the bike is delivered? Asking for a rich friend. I wish him all the best, still enjoying my CSI, Legend and carbon HSG.

I hate my CSI...
....................because it leaves me no excuse to lust after other bikes. I've even got rid of 6 of them recently. Then I got my Legend, and haven't yet figured out if it's better than the CSI, but hoping. Maybe next an Ottrott?

$27k???? Yep, I've got the money. Lessee, how many CSI or older Serottas can I buy?

[glepore]

Its an interesting dynamic-if you were to have read what folks said about Ottrott pricing back when it was introduced you'd see some of the same complaints.
Buying new "luxury" bikes is similar to buying new Mercedes/Lexus etc. The price will plummet in a few years if you have the patience to wait.

[d_douglas]

I feel like its a 'test of foolishness' - Serotta sees other manufacturers with a recent, outstanding and long history (ie., Firefly) and says, "if they can do it, so can I".

The fact is that, while I really like Serottas and have owned two ti ones myself, they have had a long and storied AND BUMPY history, some of which includes this test 15 years ago when they manufactured the Meivici and put a staggering pricetag on it, and lo and behold, people bought them. That said, they were $12k years ago and $27k now - seems like a disproportional jump.

Anyhoo, they look like great bikes, but the price hints to me of the algorithm of Amazon where they suggest a price for a paper plate as $15, just because someone, somewhere might actually pay that price, thus validating their reasoning.

[Hilltopperny]

Originally Posted by d_douglas

I feel like its a 'test of foolishness' - Serotta sees other manufacturers with a recent, outstanding and long history (ie., Firefly) and says, "if they can do it, so can I".



The fact is that, while I really like Serottas and have owned two ti ones myself, they have had a long and storied AND BUMPY history, some of which includes this test 15 years ago when they manufactured the Meivici and put a staggering pricetag on it, and lo and behold, people bought them. That said, they were $12k years ago and $27k now - seems like a disproportional jump.



Anyhoo, they look like great bikes, but the price hints to me of the algorithm of Amazon where they suggest a price for a paper plate as $15, just because someone, somewhere might actually pay that price, thus validating their reasoning.

A truck in the USA that used to retail for $45k is now $80k, a home that used to cost 150k is now 350k, my energy costs have tripled and my grocery bill is at least 2.5 times what it was just a few years ago. Same with all of the other things I just listed. A bike is a luxury good, so not a necessity like the other things I listed, but the rate at which those things rose over the course of 4 years is the most significant I have seen in my lifetime.

Ben was building and designing bikes since before I was born. The bikes they are making are premium and well designed by one of the best to ever do it. The man is a brilliant bike designer.

He may not be the best at financially running the business end, but he isn't with this venture. Jim Bethel who is handling the business end. The bikes are welded by Andy Keech, tubing is cut by Frank the welder in Bellows Falls VT and paint is by Jordon Low of Hot Tubes notoriety. That is an all-star crew to be involved in the venture. While Jaime and Tyler are also brilliant bike designer/manufacturers they do not have more collective experience than that crew.




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[PaulE]

Originally Posted by Flinch

I hate my CSI...
....................because it leaves me no excuse to lust after other bikes. I've even got rid of 6 of them recently. Then I got my Legend, and haven't yet figured out if it's better than the CSI, but hoping. Maybe next an Ottrott?

$27k???? Yep, I've got the money. Lessee, how many CSI or older Serottas can I buy?

The price is what it is, it's not for me but someone else will buy them. And with Ben's design it is likely a great bike. But I have a suspicion that you can't put down a $500 or $1,000 deposit with the balance due on delivery, and I don't see putting up all or a significant portion of the purchase price and then waiting/hoping the bike will be delivered.

[rapid_ti]

Been there, done that and very happy with my decisison, although I spent a lot less then 27k :-)

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