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I had to buy a used vw golf alltrack last summer to get a fuel efficient wagon. There were no non-luxury wagons on the market.
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I've traded my 2016 sportwagen for a mercedes e400 wagon. I liked the sportwagen but I am in love with the MB.

The twin turbo v6 is incredible!

Careful with the sw turbo, they have a very high fail rate. Mine lasted for 200K km before it started making noises and was $7000 to replace along with a water pump....

Vw is a great car but i wouldn't buy again. Plus, vw considers burning 1L of oil every 1000km normal. ***?
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I've traded my 2016 sportwagen for a mercedes e400 wagon. I liked the sportwagen but I am in love with the MB.

The twin turbo v6 is incredible!

Careful with the sw turbo, they have a very high fail rate. Mine lasted for 200K km before it started making noises and was $7000 to replace along with a water pump....

Vw is a great car but i wouldn't buy again. Plus, vw considers burning 1L of oil every 1000km normal. ***?
This was more of an early gti/R issue than the is12. You got raped on the price.

Still going strong, 116k miles. 60k or 65k with IS20, jb4 and daily beatings. Still on original clutch. Consumes maybe a half quart every 5k

I recently had some sort of coolant flange on the back of the head fail. Only a few hundred to have done so I let the dealer do it.
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Careful with the sw turbo, they have a very high fail rate. Mine lasted for 200K km before it started making noises and was $7000 to replace along with a water pump....
Was that at a dealer? VW/Audi is notorious for charging you out the ass for non-warranty work.

What usually happens is the wastegate actuators fail and the dealer will only replace the whole turbo with a new unit, and used low mileage stock turbos are very cheap. Its likely a $1500 bill at an indy shop at worst.
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Old Today, 02:45 PM
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Still going strong, 116k miles. 60k or 65k with IS20, jb4 and daily beatings. Still on original clutch. Consumes maybe a half quart every 5k
When my warranty is up next year I'm sending it to the local vw performance shop for the is20 package. Did you do a downpipe at the same time?
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Old Today, 02:52 PM
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I've found modern VW/Audi to be very reliable, FWIW.

Introducing a lot of new tech (safety features, screens, etc) plus supply chain problems the past few years has hit pretty much all the car manufacturers with some issues.
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Was that at a dealer? VW/Audi is notorious for charging you out the ass for non-warranty work.

What usually happens is the wastegate actuators fail and the dealer will only replace the whole turbo with a new unit, and used low mileage stock turbos are very cheap. Its likely a $1500 bill at an indy shop at worst.
That’s what i mean by reliable (or lack thereof), the fat-tail events that can cost a lot to repair.

Add to that manufactures making a lot of repairs very difficult for indy shops, owning an ICE Audi is not on the top of my list.

I might consider an electric Audi solely b/c there are a lot fewer wear items and moving parts.
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Old Today, 02:54 PM
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I've traded my 2016 sportwagen for a mercedes e400 wagon. I liked the sportwagen but I am in love with the MB.

The twin turbo v6 is incredible!

Careful with the sw turbo, they have a very high fail rate. Mine lasted for 200K km before it started making noises and was $7000 to replace along with a water pump....

Vw is a great car but i wouldn't buy again. Plus, vw considers burning 1L of oil every 1000km normal. ***?
I go back and forth about trading my 2009 BMW 328i wagon in on a newer Mercedes wagon, I just know it won't be as fun to toss around a turn. Part of me thinks I don't need to be doing that **** anymore, part of me thinks I'd miss not being able to do it even though I probably won't.
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