OT: sportwagen

[dmitrik4]

Originally Posted by .RJ

Probably because then you'd have to look at an ID4

^^correct

[.RJ]

Originally Posted by oldpotatoe

EV or EV/Hybrid SportWagen? No such animal and VW has no plans to make another wagen. They are all in on small 'SUVs'..like Tiguan, Taos and even a big one..

Are there any wagons left for America? I dont really count the S6 Avant or M5 in this, given the price/performance and there's no way that I would treat it like, well, a family car.

[dmitrik4]

Originally Posted by tv_vt

You want a hybrid wagon, do ya? Just wait a year for the BMW M5 Touring to hit the shores. Monstrous V-8, plus a near-200hp electric motor for >700hp. But sorry, no manual.

More here: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...touring-drive/

Oh yeah, it's also a wee bit more expensive than a Sportwagen. Well, actually, it's more expensive than at least 3 Sportwagens, maybe 4.

Yep. Anything I’d replace mine with is either really boring or hideously expensive.

[echappist]

Originally Posted by .RJ

Are there any wagons left for America? I dont really count the S6 Avant or M5 in this, given the price/performance and there's no way that I would treat it like, well, a family car.

Volvo V60 and V90
Audi Allroad A4 and A6
MB E Wagon
Porsche Taycan Turismo

each is at least an upscale car (starting at $50k).

[trener1]

The Volvo V60 Plus in hybrid looks pretty sweet to me, though still not cheap by any means.

[.RJ]

Originally Posted by echappist

each is at least an upscale car (starting at $50k).

Does $50k even qualify as upscale anymore?

The A6 Avant does look pretty good - probably way too nice to fill up with mountain bike mud, dog hair and goldfish. My 2008 A4 Avant (K04 turbo, tuned) was probably the best car I've ever owned.