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Originally Posted by teleguy57

I'm a fan of tubulars, and much more often have changed tires because the tread worn down to the casing than a flat. Of the limited number of flats I've had in the last half-dozen years none have been catastrophic, and all the others either I got home without noticing it until the tire was really soft the next day, or I put in some Stan's and used my trusty frame pump and got home fine without removing a tire. And of those with Stan's, only one ended up getting replaced because the Stan's wouldn't hold more than a single ride.

My go-to wheels on my new Alliance ti all-road are tubs. I do have a set of wheels with Gravel King SKs I've set up tubeless, but I'm not sure I'd do any other tubeless wheels.

In my view of the world, tubulars ride great, provide durability and safety, and are just plain fun.

Note: Assuming we're talking decent tubs. Current fav is Vlaanderens; the value winner was the Vittoria Corsa Elites (I think now replaced by the Rubino Pro) and enjoyed by Vittoria Paves and Corsa SCs in 25mm.,

Kohagen, check your PMs

Originally Posted by denapista

Do yourself a favor and toss that Vittoria Pit stop. It doesn't do a damn thing when you puncture. Stans or Orange Seal are waaaaaaay better sealants and actually work instantly. I got a puncture once years ago, and added Stans on the road. That tire still held air until I finally wore it down.

The only downsides to riding tubulars are the costs of tires and the downtime if you puncture and need to glue at night, which is minimal. I can't see myself going back to Clinchers anytime soon. I also like that if I puncture at high speeds, my tire stays on the rim and I can roll myself to a slow stop.

I carry a tiny bottle of stans, valve core remover, Co2 and a mini hand pump. I've noticed that Tubular tires don't like Co2 air and it leaks through the latex inner tube (Happened twice on Vittoria Tires). I carry a spare tire on rides when I'm just out there in the middle of the mountains alone. Sealant is so good that it will fix most tiny punctures, and you'd have to ride through a bunch of glass to cut a tire big enough to render sealant useless.

I've been running the same set of Vlaanderen tires for over a year now. Not a flat in sight and I ride dirt/gravel/road on these tires. I want to go back to Roubaix tires, but the puncture protection of the Vlaanderen is the BEST!

I'm looking for a set of deep (45-50mm) carbon tubulars and want to try those new Veloflex Servizio Corsa tires.

How many miles are you guys getting out of Vlaandarens? I have some front and rear on Zipp 303's. I run them at 95 PSI front and 100 PSI rear. The rear has lost the dots in the majority of the middle; I have around 1500 miles or (3000km) and that's the recommendded changing time from Veloflex.

Also, have you guys ever successfully used Stans in them once you've got a flat?