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Originally Posted by R3awak3n
I am not debating anything, just pointing out that 650x38 will give you same toe overlap as 700x23
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Right, I know you weren't. I'm saying that Doug Fattic's objection to using 650b to improve toe clearance is making confusing assumptions.
If someone is considering a 700x23 as one of their options, they're likely riding on smooth surfaces, and likely want to go narrow. So if they're also considering a 650b tire, they're likely going to look at something like the 25mm 650b Schwalbe Pro One, not a 38mm allroad tire.
Similarly, if someone is considering a 650b 38mm tire as one of their options, they probably value tire fatness. So, if they're concerned that switching to 700c could harm clearances or something, they're probably envisioning a fat 700c allroad tire, not a 23mm tire.
In this case, the frameset is designed for CX/gravel, and the OP is talking about using tires that are nearly 2" in width. Skinny 700c road tires are likely not part of the discussion.