Thank you for your input I truly appreciate it.
As for the Q' it's not about being the best or most expensive they are just comfortable. and I think for my fat Arse XXL it's more about the cytech pad. supports where you need it and no bulk where you don't. I love my Rapha Classics almost feels like you're naked but the pad is thick and bulky and after a couple of hours painful. IM not opposed to other brands would like to no spend so much. but then again I only have a few shorts in the rotation and usually, keep them for 5-10 years.
Thanks for my snowy day rant. skipped my indoor ride to shovel snow. now I need a nap
