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@mtechnica,
You're arguing that carbon-fiber bikes are the fastest.
Other people are are countering your argument with a different one: "fastest" is not necessarily the best.
Earlier in the thread, you posited -- essentially -- that stiffest + lightest = best.
Other people might not agree with you on that equation.
Clearly, racers have decided that the best race bikes are made out of carbon fiber. For other people (notably non-racers, or people for whom race results are not the prime motivation for riding), the ride experience means more to them than placing in a race.
I don't think anyone here is truly arguing that you can win the TdF on a steel bike today. But, hey... I'm not going to win the TdF no matter what bike I ride. And some days, I like taking out my steel bike even though I've also got a high-zoot CF bike in the garage.
If you love racing and carbon-fiber racing bikes, great! More power to you. Other people, including some former racers and other people who have ridden a lot of different bikes made of different materials, enjoy titanium or steel bikes. That's cool too.
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