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Originally Posted by wc1934
How does that big headed juicer even get into this conversation?
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Because even before steroids he was one of the best postwar hitters in the game.
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Originally Posted by cgolvin
I could see making the case for Bonds as the better pure hitter (possible for Ted Williams too) but not the better complete player. And, while comparisons across long time periods are difficult, simply the fact that Ruth did not compete against half of the best ballplayers of his age nullifies the disparity IMO. And, again, as a complete player, no comparison even with Ruth's pitching achievements.
I'm curious who you have ahead of him. Griffey?
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Even with a segregated league Ruth's numbers are stupefying, the gap defensively where Mays is better is more than offset by the superiority at the plate.
If we're restricting to position players:
Ruth, Cobb, Bonds, Mays and either Henderson or Williams, depends on the day.
But an absolute Top 5 would have to include Walter Johnson and Cy Young.