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An interesting part of the discussion is gearing. My gravel bike still has the gearing from 2017, a 36/46 and an 11-32. My all-road bike has Red AXS with a 35/48 and a 10-33, so my road bike has lower climbing gears. Thinking back to the days when I'd time trial with a 44/55 and a 13-26, or climbing Hurricane Ridge with a 42-23 low gear, my knees hurt.
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