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UKBROOKLYN 11-23-2017 02:49 PM

Centaur vs Potenza 32-11 Cassette
 
Anyone know the difference between the Centaur and Potenza 11sp 32-11 cassettes ??

oldpotatoe 11-24-2017 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UKBROOKLYN (Post 2267643)
Anyone know the difference between the Centaur and Potenza 11sp 32-11 cassettes ??

Nothing..looking at the spare parts catalog, Potenza is 'labeled' Campagnolo 11s and Centaur 'labeled' Centaur 11s' but same part numbers, CS-411, etc..

Same with the 11s chain, labeled 'Campagnolo 11s'...

Page 58-61 in spare parts catalog..

R3awak3n 11-24-2017 07:46 AM

ah, so campy just pulling a fast one on you? Pretty sure the centaur is $20 cheaper.

Ralph 11-24-2017 07:56 AM

Is there a 12-32? Maybe IRD? Shimano? Don't have much use for a 11 tooth...and with 12, middle range can be closer together.

zmudshark 11-24-2017 08:50 AM

Checking at the UK sites, it seems that the Centaur is loose cogs, and the Potenza has the largest three pinned. Potenza is a bit lighter.

john segal 11-24-2017 09:21 AM

If the Centaur is loose cogs, could one conceivably replace the 29 on a 10 speed cassette with the 32? Or, drop one cog, and use 10 speed spacers to make a 10 speed version?

dddd 11-24-2017 03:32 PM

I couldn't find the ratios of the new 12-32t 11s Centaur cassette online, only this 11-32t cassette.
Does anyone know where the 12-32t cassette's ratios might be listed?
I'm guessing that they simply added a 16t cog in the middle of this cassette's spread and removed the 11t, but would like to be sure about this.

Centaur seems like a good and affordable 11s grouppo option, and is even offered in silver or black, with just one cage size now handling every cassette!

lookout2015 11-24-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dddd (Post 2268042)
I couldn't find the ratios of the new 12-32t 11s Centaur cassette online, only this 11-32t cassette.
Does anyone know where the 12-32t cassette's ratios might be listed?
I'm guessing that they simply added a 16t cog in the middle of this cassette's spread and removed the 11t, but would like to be sure about this.

That’s what starbike has it listed as being.

http://www.starbike.com/en/campagnol...ette-11-speed/

dddd 11-24-2017 09:24 PM

Thanks, lookout2015, I can deal with that so am looking hard for a Black Friday deal on a centaur gruppo, or just the levers, cassette and derailers.

In my later 50's so I could do without ever having to climb Iowa hill from the river in a 39x26t again!

lookout2015 11-24-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dddd (Post 2268225)
Thanks, lookout2015, I can deal with that so am looking hard for a Black Friday deal on a centaur gruppo, or just the levers, cassette and derailers.

In my later 50's so I could do without ever having to climb Iowa hill from the river in a 39x26t again!

https://www.eurobikeparts.com/prodde...A-CENTAUR8PC11

$470 with the 10% off Black Friday - they only had 11-32 though

oldpotatoe 11-25-2017 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralph (Post 2267855)
Is there a 12-32? Maybe IRD? Shimano? Don't have much use for a 11 tooth...and with 12, middle range can be closer together.

Campag lists a 12-32/11s also..CS-412

oldpotatoe 11-25-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by zmudshark (Post 2267876)
Checking at the UK sites, it seems that the Centaur is loose cogs, and the Potenza has the largest three pinned. Potenza is a bit lighter.

I'd make sure that was 11s..the Campag catalog shows 11s 'Campag' and 'Centaur' as the last 3 cogs pinned together.

bfd 11-25-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe (Post 2268314)
I'd make sure that was 11s..the Campag catalog shows 11s 'Campag' and 'Centaur' as the last 3 cogs pinned together.

This is true. I can confirm that the Centaur 11-32 11 speed cassette that I have has the last 3 cogs pinned together. They are not loose cogs like my Veloce 9 cassettes. Good Luck!

UKBROOKLYN 11-25-2017 08:04 PM

So basically the Centaur and Potenza 11-32 cassettes are the same.. Then I guess its a no brainer which one to buy.

I asked this question because I bought an 11-32 cassette earlier this year to put on my pre 2015 SR equipped bike.. and the box from Campy just said 11 speed cassette.. ie no gruppo name. Works great.. but will be needing to replace it soonish as I ride quite a bit.. So I guess I will buy the centaur one to put on the shelf..

oldpotatoe 11-26-2017 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UKBROOKLYN (Post 2268571)
So basically the Centaur and Potenza 11-32 cassettes are the same.. Then I guess its a no brainer which one to buy.

I asked this question because I bought an 11-32 cassette earlier this year to put on my pre 2015 SR equipped bike.. and the box from Campy just said 11 speed cassette.. ie no gruppo name. Works great.. but will be needing to replace it soonish as I ride quite a bit.. So I guess I will buy the centaur one to put on the shelf..

Since Centaur is brand new and to 11s, I think Campag's labeling and pricing needs to 'catch up'..But yes, same cogset but 'Centaur' one is cheaper(?)...


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