The Paceline Forum

The Paceline Forum (https://forums.thepaceline.net/index.php)
-   General Discussion (https://forums.thepaceline.net/forumdisplay.php?f=3)
-   -   BB7 Road versus Mountain (https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=284879)

litcrazy 07-18-2022 04:35 PM

BB7 Road versus Mountain
 
Hello,
I've read several forums wrestling with the differences.
I just got myself a Black Mountain Road+ that I am setting up.
I have road and mountains BB7s (I bought the road by mistake but held on, hoarder that I am).
I have both road and v-brake Tektro levers.

If you've played with all these variables, what did you like best?
I've heard rumors of some folks preferring the V-brake levers with the road bb7s. I'd be particularly interested in feedback if you've tried that. I seems like it could allow for a bit more rotor clearance (and a bit less risk of clicking rotors).
Thanks! Z

Veloo 07-18-2022 07:57 PM

I have both road and MTB BB7.

MTB was used with Avid Speed Dial levers.
Road with Campy Athena.
Both with the same Yokozuna compressionless housing.

I can't say I've noticed a difference between the two tho.

robt57 07-18-2022 07:59 PM

I used MTN BB7s with ST-5800 shifter with a cable route mod that worked excellent.

I may have a pic of the cable route at the caliper that worked...

HamFisted 07-19-2022 12:57 AM

I have the road BB7's on my Gryphon with Sram levers and the mtn BB7's on my Fargo with Cane Creek V-brake levers. I want to say that they feel exactly the same but the road BB7's on my Gryphon feel better though it's possible I spent more time dialing them in correctly.

I always refer to this guide when setting them up.

ridethecliche 07-19-2022 08:02 AM

Unrelated question... Do folks prefer these to the trp spyres? Tell me more!

Alistair 07-19-2022 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 3120419)
Unrelated question... Do folks prefer these to the trp spyres? Tell me more!

Anecdotally, from friends that have used then, cable disc calipers seems to rate in order...

1a. Paul Klamper
1b. Yokozuna
2. Spyre
3. BB7

I had Spyres on a road bike for a bit. They worked, but nowhere near as well as hydro brakes, so I swapped to Force HRD.

saintruggler 07-20-2022 08:34 PM

I’ve tried and prefer (in order):

1. TRP Spyre (with SRAM Apex, Shimano Claris and Paul Canti lever)
2. TRP Spyke (with Avid Speed Dial 5)
3. BB7 MTN (with Avid Speed Dial 7)
4. BB7 Road (with SRAM Apex)
5. BB5 MTN (with non-descript Avid lever)

The Spyres are my favorite mainly because I love the Paul levers most. I assume the Spykes with Paul Love (long-pull) levers would be equally nice.

The dual piston action of the Spyke/Spyres made a noticeable difference for me, in terms of stopping power and modulation “feel.” I never could get the BB7s dialed in correctly. Lots of fussing and not enough riding.

jc031699 07-20-2022 09:23 PM

I use road BB7’s (Avid resin pads) with Force 10sp levers and love it. Jagwire compressionless housing. Couldn’t ask for more. Maybe I have low expectations.

ridethecliche 07-21-2022 08:44 AM

Thanks for the info everyone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jc031699 (Post 3121281)
I use road BB7’s (Avid resin pads) with Force 10sp levers and love it. Jagwire compressionless housing. Couldn’t ask for more. Maybe I have low expectations.

If you're getting good predictable consistent stopping power... what more could you ask for? Sure you can possibly get better, but if it works for you and your riding... it works!

benb 07-21-2022 09:01 AM

It would be great if they started figuring out how to make affordable road hydro disc setups so there were better low end options.

My son's MTB was $700 for the whole bike and has excellent hydraulic discs. Better than the last Ultegra disc brake equipped bike I test rode. :(

The spread on price/performance between MTB & Road here is pretty extreme.

Smitty2k1 07-21-2022 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamFisted (Post 3120361)
I have the road BB7's on my Gryphon with Sram levers and the mtn BB7's on my Fargo with Cane Creek V-brake levers. I want to say that they feel exactly the same but the road BB7's on my Gryphon feel better though it's possible I spent more time dialing them in correctly.

I always refer to this guide when setting them up.

Thanks for the link - I've got to put new pads on my BB7s so I'll try the setup instructions when I do replace them.

saintruggler 07-21-2022 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HamFisted (Post 3120361)
I have the road BB7's on my Gryphon with Sram levers and the mtn BB7's on my Fargo with Cane Creek V-brake levers. I want to say that they feel exactly the same but the road BB7's on my Gryphon feel better though it's possible I spent more time dialing them in correctly.

I always refer to this guide when setting them up.

Thanks for the setup guide link, @HamFisted!

ridethecliche 07-21-2022 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benb (Post 3121421)
It would be great if they started figuring out how to make affordable road hydro disc setups so there were better low end options.

My son's MTB was $700 for the whole bike and has excellent hydraulic discs. Better than the last Ultegra disc brake equipped bike I test rode. :(

The spread on price/performance between MTB & Road here is pretty extreme.

Isn't there a tiagra option now?

litcrazy 07-22-2022 12:14 PM

Road BB7 with V-brake levers
 
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm going to try to the road bb7s with the V-brake tektro road levers and see if it lets me set up the pads a bit further out while stilling getting the power I want.
I'll let folks know how it goes in a few weeks.

litcrazy 07-25-2022 10:49 PM

Road Levers for Road BB7s
 
Hello,
So I started with the Tektro V brakes levers (RL520) and the road BB7. It did allow a bit more modulation but the absolute power felt inadequate.

I then switched to TRP road levers and the absolute power felt much improved and the pad spacing didn't feel enough worse to justify the loss of power.

It's a brief experiment, but I definitely would vote for road levers with road BB7 brakes.

As a reference point, I was running 27.5/54mm Gravelking SKs (so lots of surface contact).

I'm still ambivalent about the set-up. Whereas I'm fine with BB7s on my mountain bike, I may be tempted to try the Juin Tech R1 for this gravel bike with road levers. Still thinking.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:06 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.