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Jaybee 09-05-2018 10:52 AM

OT: 2018-19 NBA Thread.
 
Training camps start in just a couple weeks!

Any thoughts on these over/under win projections?

Atl 24
Bos 59
Brk 32
Cha 35.5
Chi 30
Cle 30.5
Dal 34.5
Den 47.5
Det 38
GS 62.5
Hou 56
Ind 48
LAC 36.5
LAL 48.5
Mem 32.5
Mia 41.5
Mil 47.5
Min 44.5
NO 46
NY 29
OKC 50
Orl 31
Phi 54.5
Phx 29
Por 41.5
Sac 25.5
SA 44.5
Tor 55.5
Uth 49.5
Wsh 44.5

My only thought is that GSW will only lose 20 games if they just take all of December-February off, or Boogie Cousins snaps KD in half over a locker room gambling debt.

boomforeal 09-05-2018 11:13 AM

taking the over on utah. the line is moving but still way too low

edit: and the under on LA

DRZRM 09-05-2018 11:18 AM

Not based on anything but my gut feeling--I've heard nothing about BB since James trade--so take it for what it is worth.

I think LAL are over 48.5 and BOS are under 59.

FlashUNC 09-05-2018 11:20 AM

Given how bored they looked, and GSW's remarkable run of health these last few years, I'd say they're due for a lull 20 feels about right. You could even see it with Kerr's postgame comments after the title win that 2017-2018 was a rough one for them.

I could easily see them not being the 1 seed out of the West.

If the Hawks win 20 games I'll be amazed.

Jaybee 09-05-2018 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 2421684)
Given how bored they looked, and GSW's remarkable run of health these last few years, I'd say they're due for a lull 20 feels about right. You could even see it with Kerr's postgame comments after the title win that 2017-2018 was a rough one for them.

I could easily see them not being the 1 seed out of the West.

If the Hawks win 20 games I'll be amazed.

Houston is not winning 60 this year - they got worse. I like OKC to do a little better than 50 - maybe 52/53 max. I get that GSW doesn't care until May, and doesn't really really care until June, but they can sleepwalk their way to 60 by playing hard about 6 minutes of every game.

I think LAL is under 48, but wins their first round series, and agree that the Jazz are over 49.5. I think Toronto is over also.

Spurs maybe not in the playoffs this year? Craziness.

RC. 09-05-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by boomforeal (Post 2421680)
taking the over on utah. the line is moving but still way too low

edit: and the under on LA

I was coming here to say, yeah on that over. Jazz won 48 with 1/3 of the season wrecked because of injuries. There is no way they lose less than 49 even in the west.

marsh 09-05-2018 11:28 AM

Bulls over 30 fo sho!

FlashUNC 09-05-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaybee (Post 2421688)
Houston is not winning 60 this year - they got worse. I like OKC to do a little better than 50 - maybe 52/53 max. I get that GSW doesn't care until May, and doesn't really really care until June, but they can sleepwalk their way to 60 by playing hard about 6 minutes of every game.

I think LAL is under 48, but wins their first round series, and agree that the Jazz are over 49.5. I think Toronto is over also.

Spurs maybe not in the playoffs this year? Craziness.

I'm not sold on Houston getting worse. They were 14-1 without Trevor Ariza during the year, and their Harden/Paul/Capela trifecta is still together. And they got some more offense in Carmelo to rest the other guys a bit.

They were never a defensive juggernaut, but I still think given the Game 7 loss they'll be motivated again.

I'm more counting on that "Klay tears a knee ligament" or "Durant goes down with an ankle injury" kinda thing for long stretches.

Jaybee 09-05-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 2421694)
I'm not sold on Houston getting worse. They were 14-1 without Trevor Ariza during the year, and their Harden/Paul/Capela trifecta is still together. And they got some more offense in Carmelo to rest the other guys a bit.

They were never a defensive juggernaut, but I still think given the Game 7 loss they'll be motivated again.

I'm more counting on that "Klay tears a knee ligament" or "Durant goes down with an ankle injury" kinda thing for long stretches.

Houston was 6th in defense last year. Maybe not a juggernaut, but no slouch.
This might be the only place where Carmelo still works - assuming he can be efficient enough out of isolation to make the math profitable.

Anyway, you post makes sense, and I could definitely see the W's having their injury luck run out.

The East is still garbage overall, but Boston/Philly/Toronto should be fun.

FlashUNC 09-05-2018 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaybee (Post 2421700)
Houston was 6th in defense last year. Maybe not a juggernaut, but no slouch.
This might be the only place where Carmelo still works - assuming he can be efficient enough out of isolation to make the math profitable.

Anyway, you post makes sense, and I could definitely see the W's having their injury luck run out.

The East is still garbage overall, but Boston/Philly/Toronto should be fun.

Philly in the Finals. Calling it now.

The world needs Embiid going Full Heel and the Sixers becoming the unapologetic, preening villains of the East.

I'm fascinated to see just what the Raptors have with Kawhi. Does he sulk for an entire season? Is the injury that bad? Is it possible to be a professional NBA player and not voluntarily speak to anyone ever?

RC. 09-05-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 2421703)
Philly in the Finals. Calling it now.

Over the Celtics? Interesting.

FlashUNC 09-05-2018 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RC. (Post 2421717)
Over the Celtics? Interesting.

Oh yeah. Preseason is the time for bold claims right? I'm skeptical the Hayward/Irving/Horford pairing is going to mesh as well as Boston hopes.

RC. 09-05-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 2421722)
Oh yeah. Preseason is the time for bold claims right? I'm skeptical the Hayward/Irving/Horford pairing is going to mesh as well as Boston hopes.

Well, from your fingertips to the NBA gods ears...I would love nothing more than seeing the C's implode.

FlashUNC 09-05-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RC. (Post 2421742)
Well, from your fingertips to the NBA gods ears...I would love nothing more than seeing the C's implode.

All three of them have had some pretty serious injury histories. Horford's torn both pecs. Irving is a walking mash unit. And Hayward, we all watched (and heard) that nightmare happen.

But Stevens is a helluva coach. I just hope Ben Simmons has learned to shoot outside 10 feet.

Dave B 09-05-2018 01:10 PM

you know how so many of you hate Lance?

I feel that way about the NFL, NBA, and MLB. The impact these leagues and these athletes have on folks is just sickening to me.

I used to be all in with specific teams for very good reasons. Now, it is just a more organized version of the Kardashians.


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