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fignon's barber 07-11-2020 01:11 PM

What is " PLANING " ?
 
On one of the threads today, someone mentioned "planing". I have no idea what this is. I must have slept through that part of cycling 101 class. I googled it and a Rene Hearse study pops up, something about certain tube thicknesses make certain riders faster??? Huh?

fa63 07-11-2020 01:14 PM

It is a term coined by Jan Heine to describe the pedaling efficiency of certain steel frames. If I recall correctly, in essence it means that the slight movement in the frame is beneficial and is returned as energy into the pedaling stroke. I don't believe it has been proven in a lab setting, so it is based on anecdotal evidence only.

ColonelJLloyd 07-11-2020 01:16 PM

fa63 distilled it well. As someone who grew up boating, I find it a pretty weak analogy. But, I can't really think of anything better, though I haven't really tried.

mj_michigan 07-11-2020 01:21 PM

I think "impedance matching" is a more appropriate term to describe the effect, but probably too technical.

m_sasso 07-11-2020 01:25 PM

Magic Carpet Ride = Planing

jtakeda 07-11-2020 01:31 PM

My understanding is the flex in the tubing matches your power output and weight so the tube flexes and the spring back matches your cadence and output creating a pendulum like effect in your pedal stroke.

colker 07-11-2020 02:09 PM

It means "good" flex when pedalling feels good and so does handling (although when planing is mentioned it is usually followed by front end shimmy).

reuben 07-11-2020 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_sasso (Post 2755694)
Magic Carpet Ride = Planing

This.

Toeclips 07-11-2020 02:44 PM

I thought of hydroplaning when I first read it

Certain frame builders would mix/match sl/sp tubing if the rider was heavy or super strong

We use to refer to bikes responsiveness as being either stiff and dead or spongy and springy

Ideally you wanted a bike that was springy but not spongy, too much flex in the bottom bracket

The only way to find your frame was to ride a lot and try different frames for the correct feel

You'll know the one when she shows up

FlashUNC 07-11-2020 03:00 PM

Ask a group of 10 cyclists what planing is, expect 12 different answers.

elliott 07-11-2020 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashUNC (Post 2755751)
Ask a group of 10 cyclists what planing is, expect 12 different answers.

Ask a group of 10 cyclists what planing is, expect none of them to know what you are talking about.

Toeclips 07-11-2020 03:30 PM

Don't forget skittish and twitchy

eddief 07-11-2020 03:57 PM

it's when you're pretty damn sure
 
that the forces of cycling = the bike and the fit put a smile on your face and you suddenly hear your favorite song playing beautifully in your mind as you cruise or hammer that thing down the road. it climbs the best, it does chip seal the best...and you still wonder if it's simply good tires.

sg8357 07-11-2020 04:14 PM

Low trail is an evil French plot, planning is a frame with a spring in it's step
and a song in its heart. You can have one without the other.:banana:

tomato coupe 07-11-2020 04:15 PM

Can you wax your chain and plane, or are the two religions incompatible?


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