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Keith A 10-01-2017 08:01 AM

brdiver -- Welcome to The Paceline and cycling!

I don't know much about the Colorado AL frames, but these were made by Kinesis and then finished by Serotta -- which is why they have a different serial number. I believe these were made in the late 90's, but I don't know how long they were in production. My guess is that they don't command a very high price. You can search the forum for more information on these frames.

oliver1850 10-04-2017 03:38 PM

+1 on what Keith said. I have a Colorado AL. I paid $200 for the frame and Kinesis carbon fork a number of years ago. They were made for two or three years starting in 1997 or 1998. Not one of the more popular Serottas, and the one you are looking at has the less desirable aluminum fork. Looks to be in good shape though and would be a decent starter bike.

Kingfisher 11-08-2017 07:47 AM

Found csi on Craig's my size
Seller says this is on Bb she'll
CC 60 1198
So custom csi, 60 cm 1198??

Keith A 11-08-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingfisher (Post 2259440)
Found csi on Craig's my size
Seller says this is on Bb she'll
CC 60 1198
So custom csi, 60 cm 1198??

That's correct, so it is the 1198th CSi built. Too bad all the build specs for the custom Serottas were lost, unless the owner saved this information :(

Kingfisher 11-08-2017 10:04 AM

Any idea of year of this 1198, maybe Dave Kirk would have idea?

Keith A 11-08-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingfisher (Post 2259505)
Any idea of year of this 1198, maybe Dave Kirk would have idea?

Take a look in this discussion and you should be able to find some dates and build numbers that would give you an idea...

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=65712

oliver1850 11-09-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfisher (Post 2259505)
Any idea of year of this 1198, maybe Dave Kirk would have idea?

Mine is CS 59 958. After going the the same process as you, I settled on 1997 for mine. Small details such as tubing sticker, cable stops and paint will help pin it down but I'd guess 1997 or 1998 based on my serial number.

oliver1850 12-31-2017 05:42 PM

Another for the list: SM for T-Max. Thanks to gis_guru for the info.

https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=187170

YoKev 04-18-2018 08:08 PM

Maybe I missed it in the previous 20 pages, but I have just seen a Ti cross bike with the code CGT. I understand the C...it's definitely custom geometry.

It's being advertised as a Legend.

Any idea if this is correct?

Rosco827 04-23-2018 01:57 PM

Hello, I am getting ready to list a Serotta bike frame for sale (husband's request). It was a shop display model he purchased and never built up. The bike shop said it was Ottrott SE, but when I look at the serial number it indicates an Ottrott ST. May I ask what the difference is? Is it possible to be an SE?

Serial number is OS 58 1409

Rosco827 04-24-2018 10:18 AM

Any Serotta knowledgeable folks who can help with this?

Rosco827 04-24-2018 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rosco827 (Post 2353357)
Hello, I am getting ready to list a Serotta bike frame for sale (husband's request). It was a shop display model he purchased and never built up. The bike shop said it was Ottrott SE, but when I look at the serial number it indicates an Ottrott ST. May I ask what the difference is? Is it possible to be an SE?

Serial number is OS 58 1409

Any Serotta knowledgeable folks who could answer this?

azrider 04-25-2018 05:22 PM

Another to add to the list/inventory.

SC 58
01772

oliver1850 05-03-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosco827 (Post 2353357)
Hello, I am getting ready to list a Serotta bike frame for sale (husband's request). It was a shop display model he purchased and never built up. The bike shop said it was Ottrott SE, but when I look at the serial number it indicates an Ottrott ST. May I ask what the difference is? Is it possible to be an SE?

Serial number is OS 58 1409

I think both models are essentially the same. Both have the carbon stay and pivot at the dropout. The name changed to SE in 2008.

I checked my Ottrott. It has the IT decal on the carbon seat stay and the model code in the serial number is LI, so that is evidently how the early ST frames were designated. It's possible that the frames with Ti seat stays were also LI though. Need to see one.

oliver1850 05-03-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by YoKev (Post 2350669)
Maybe I missed it in the previous 20 pages, but I have just seen a Ti cross bike with the code CGT. I understand the C...it's definitely custom geometry.

It's being advertised as a Legend.

Any idea if this is correct?

Sorry, just saw your post. Is there a tubing sticker? Most Legends have C4Ti. Concours was C3Ti. Either will have tapering OD seat and down tubes. Legend TT is 35 mm at the HT and 30 mm at the seat tube. Concours has a 33 mm straight TT. If it doesn't have tapered seat and down tubes, it's a lower model like Fierte.


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