Bike with no skewers, not sure why?
I was riding with a friend today who was on a new Pinarello f10. He flatted out and when we went to change the tube the bike had no skewers. He realized that he did not bring the tool to remove the wheel. None of our multi tools had a big enough allen wrench to get the wheel off. I don't understand why a bike company would complicate something that is so simple. I also don't understand why a bike company would make someone carry special tools.
Sorry for the rant but it just seems absurd. best thing I learned at design school K.I.S.S - keep it simple stupid |
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$$$$$ thats why |
The Enve Gravel fork uses an allen key to remove the thru axle. You can of course BUY a thru axle skewer. Formula and DT are the only ones who offer a replacement for that tho. And both are kind of pricey for what it is. $45 for a DT.
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Because marginal gains is the difference between success and failure!
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but think of how sleek it looks sitting on the side of the road. I have the same complaint about my new MTB, but I always carry a multitool when mountain biking. But why does looking sleek matter on an MTB?
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Some of the 2018 Specialized models have these too. Takes a 5mm allen.
We've progressed from quick release to slow release.....:p |
Think we should go back to 15MM nut - that would be strong enough
Wing nuts were fun however |
I had these Control Tech skewers in the mid 90’s that used a 5mm Allen key. Looks like they have not changed much over the years from this image from Universal Cycles.
https://www.universalcycles.com/imag...arge/17045.jpg |
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I'm looking at pictures of the 2017 Dogma F10 and it looks like quick-release levers, what am I missing?
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Probably F10 disc
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Thru axles on disc brake bikes simplify things in multiple regards. Carry a 6mm l-wrench and prepare for the future. Or you can get thru axle skewers that have a lever and can be removed by hand just like a QR.
Just wait until you need to fix a flat on the road and try to install a tube on a tubeless specific rim/tire. Good luck :banana: |
Who doesn't carry a multi tool on a ride?
Thru axle is mo Betta for disc. |
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yeah sorry didn't clarify, Disc.
My CX has through axles, however with a built in lever. Quote:
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My single speed has M6 bolts with a 5mm hex head that thread in to the axle. I think Chris King makes a hub like that too. I like it because I don't have to worry about someone grabbing my wheel if I'm leaving the bike locked somewhere for a few minutes, and I'm already in the habit of carrying a set of hex wrenches.
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the DT 9 and 10mm skewers i have are basically fancy wingnuts. It's kinda funny to me, but they work great. I have thought that I would like wingnuts on a TA bike. The only real problem with wingnuts came when horizontal dropouts replaced vertical dropouts. Who knows why that happened, but we have reverted back.
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I spec'd Paragon skewers on my second thru axle bike as I like the sleekness without the lever. You can use a 5mm hex (thread end), 6mm hex (head end) or 12mm flat (head end). http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/m...k/sk4025_2.jpg If one wants a thru axle with a lever you can buy one. |
it's a good reminder that even if you don't consider yourself a capable mechanic, anyone who rides bicycles seriously and over a 10 minute walk from their home should have an understanding of basic, common field repairs.
as a workaround - i always carry the small park patch kit that's about the size of a quarter. has bailed me out a number of times when i go through more than one tube on the road. of course, you can patch a tube without removing the wheel from the bike if you needed to in a pinch. |
I'd say...with disc thru-axle bikes, get used to it. Many of the bikes I have seen for 2018 are spec'd with 6mm heads. Probably nicer on the bearing races.
Except for quick change race wheels, do we really need QR wheels? |
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you wont see me buying a bike that doesnt use a standard QR wheelset anytime soon, but my needs and wants may be different than others. |
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its insane that there are some people out there ridding that don't even know how to change a tire (not your friend but some other people) |
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Not long ago I bought canti's from a seller. These canti's had carbon brake pads the seller wanted to keep. The seller contacted me and said he was not able to remove the pads ("they were pressed in") so he sent the canti's (would have told him how however he already sent them) with the pads. The other day while on a ride I met up with someone who was complaining about Sram due to his noisy rear der. I dropped behind him and I could clearly see his der was out of alignment. I adjusted it for him, he was surprised it was so easy and how quiet it was running. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, not being able to work or know how your bike operates. However, its when folks (nothing to do with the OP) make negative comments regarding the performance of components or products not understood, installed improperly, neglected or not tuned correctly, well that's bad. |
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The rims were Reynolds ATR Carbon Clincher wheels. They freaking sucked huge. I was terrified when I saw the rim bead starting to fracture. I still have no clue how I got them off. My hands were crazy sore and I was super pissed. |
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Because the one you can't use is the wrong tool. |
Mise en place applies to bikes too.
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I've had the wrong multi tool on a couple of occasions, once I needed a small flat head screw driver for a cleat that came loose, had everything but that, another time a T-10 Torx wrench. I don't worry about weight anymore when it comes to a multi tool, now carry a Crank Bros Multi-19, has it all. How many here that stay on the road carry a 9/10/11 speed chain tool? I bet less than 20% |
I specifically look for multi-tools with a chain tool. There are lots of them...and pretty cheap too! Also a quick link in the tool bag takes up very little space and weight.
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Most of the multi tools out there are overkill. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/00...g?v=1487391007 |
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The proper allen key to remove your wheel in the event of a flat is near the top of the list, even if you're just headed down to the corner store. |
Yes no doubt he should have had the correct tool on him. It just seems like bike companies are making thing more and more complex, needing special tools or in some cases a computer to do basic repairs.
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Surely you're not suggesting that a 5mm hex driver is a special tool.
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Don't call me Surely!
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I used to ride Bullseye hubs which have the option of using a bolt that threads into the axle. I usually went that route as I felt it held better and made the wheels harder to steal if the bike was parked somewhere. The cool thing was that they took a 5/16" allen so it wasn't very likely that anyone would have that size on them.
Oh, and I also always carry a chain tool. |
I have never had a post bar or saddle slip in the field on the road. so no multi-tool.
BUT, i have everything I need to address a puncture 3x (new tube, wet patches/glueless patches, cell phone) chain tool? never seen a chain issue mine or friends. But, you have to be able to take your wheel off since tire repair is the most common incident. so the F10 owner...IMHO all on him. |
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