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Dekonick 09-10-2004 09:47 AM

Should Serotta bring back DKS?
 
-and- would you be willing to pay the significant cost difference (it takes a lot of man hours to make the DKS stay from what I hear - something like 6 man hours - is that correct?)

zap 09-10-2004 10:26 AM

It probably would make a great cyclocross bike. I'd consider buying one.

If it does indeed take 6 extra hours, someone needs to explain why.

For the road. Na. Put sheep skin cover on that brooks saddle and spend the money you save on Campy Record groupo :D

Ahneida Ride 09-10-2004 11:21 AM

Return of the DKS
 
Serotta is a "custom" shop. Custom means custom. If a client wants
a DKS, offer it and charge the appropiate amount.

Offer DKS in limited production, built only over the winter perhaps, But still
offer this option !

D-Squared 09-10-2004 01:33 PM

I wonder what Smiley will say on this one??? :)

Dekonick 09-10-2004 01:53 PM

I think I have a pretty good idea how he feels about it.

Ill bet an Ottrott with DKS would be right up his alley...and mine for that matter! I suppose even Douglas might be coaxed into a DKS Ottrott.

Smiley 09-10-2004 03:30 PM

the only reason to bring it back is so i can order a ottrott dks . i got my hors and thats that :banana:

Sandy 09-12-2004 10:39 PM

Yes
 
So that I would not feel guilty when I steal Smiley's Hors.

:) Stealing Smley's Steed So Slick So Steelless So STill Serotta Sandy :)

Tom Byrnes 09-12-2004 11:06 PM

I rode dbrk's beautiful white Legend with DKS for three consecutive days at the recent TdFL. How remarkably stable it was on the fast descents. I liked it so much that I am going to order a Kirk Terraplane once our storage area above our garage is completed (in two-three wekks). I assume that the Terraplane will have a similar feel and ride.

Tom

Smiley 09-13-2004 06:39 AM

Tom why not buy Ben's old bike available on the deals section of the website ?

Kevin 09-13-2004 07:04 AM

I would love to own a DKS.

Kevin

Andreu 09-13-2004 07:56 AM

Ugly
 
I must be the only person on this forum that thinks the DKS is plug ugly. But people should be given the choice to buy one if they have the $$.
A

dbrk 09-13-2004 08:30 AM

As Thom mentioned I own DaveThompson's Legend DKS (which I guess makes it my DKS). It's not the aesthetics that draws me to this bike but the ride (it's sure grippy and smooth, though it creaks when you climb and that takes some getting used to) and, I confess, it's relative oddity. I mean, it simply doesn't ride like a non-DKS or a YBB or anything else. This is something I very much like in a bike because it's a good reason (rationalization, will do too) for having a few different bikes. The DKS is definitely its own experience. I put its aesthetics in the category of Bates, Terraplane, or others who do something that no one lese really does: such images work past our normal categories and offer a certain challenge to acceptance. I like the sloper with the DKS look because, well, then it looks even less like a "normal" bicycle to me.

dbrk
who thinks that "normal" is for other people...but most people think that

Smiley 09-13-2004 08:39 AM

Dr Brooks, if your DKS creaks when out of the saddle then remove the elastomers and put a teflon filler* betwwen the straps and the stays and re-install the elastomers so the fit snug , this happened to a client of mine with his bike and that was the fix .

* plumbers teflon tape works well or even electricians black tape and trim off edges after install . By the way this client even talked to Captain Kirk on my suggestion and we could not figure this out untill I rode behind him and said what the heck and did this fix , no noise since .

Andreu 09-13-2004 08:45 AM

Curious
 
Out of interest if this is a good idea...why donīt do other builders do a "DKS- style-gadget" or have Serotta patented the idea?

How heavy is the extra gadget....would it be a serious consideration for racing - say Paris Roubaix - where you need a bit more "give" in the rear fork? or for tight flat circuits where you need to maximise road contact and the extra weight (if any?) is less critical.
Has this sort of design gone "out of fashion" because now we have so much flexibility in tube materials and design?

Curious

A
PS The Terraplane is beautiful.

Ahneida Ride 09-13-2004 09:52 AM

DKS Demise
 
1.) Serotta owns the Patent.

2.) DKS adds 154 grams ........ from Serotta Catalogue

3.) Cost. Rumor has infomed me that Cost was the factor in dumping the
DKS. Much more expensive to build just then installing pre built
carbon stays.


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