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William 06-20-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptStash (Post 2192228)
Ok that cracked me up. I rowed competitively for 30 years and sometimes have the same problem.

CaptStash....

PS: Did I ever race you? I was at LBRA and Lake Washington...

Same here. :)

Might have raced me in the early 90's? We used to come up and race at regattas held at Green Lake during the Summers between collegiate racing seasons.





William

eippo1 06-20-2017 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptStash (Post 2192228)
Ok that cracked me up. I rowed competitively for 30 years and sometimes have the same problem.

CaptStash....

PS: Did I ever race you? I was at LBRA and Lake Washington...

Ditto here with Rowing. Had real troubles when steering Dad's boat and he'd say go to port. Finally just said port and left both have 4 letters, and remembered it that way. Also, this has been fascinating. My office window looks out on the Boston cargo terminal and most of these box boats are unbelievably massive. That and they can't maneuver worth a damn. 3 also large tugs are needed to get them back out to sea.

duke 06-20-2017 12:26 PM

Stash still has trouble with port and starboard.

batman1425 06-20-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by seanile (Post 2192057)
+1
though while i'm reading i keep having to reverse my port/starboard orientation since i spent many years as a rower; my back was toward the bow and thus port=right and starboard=left.

Me too. 9 years on the competitive circuit in HS and College. Also on the east coast and just a bit older than you are. Wonder if we ever raced against one another. I could "switch hit" reasonably well - my HS team broke down into small sculling boats over the summer for the club regattas and Canadian Henley which helped keep my muscle development balanced but preferred port if given the option when sweeping.

CaptStash 06-20-2017 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by duke (Post 2192320)
Stash still has trouble with port and starboard.

Figured you would chime in sooner or later...

seanile 08-18-2017 01:23 AM

update:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-japan-n793746

navy is disciplining the personnel

Louis 08-18-2017 02:58 AM

"Insufficient situational awareness" on the part of the Fitzgerald's crew.

That's bad news. Given how many different ways there are to see what's out there and to respond to the information they gather I'm guessing that there were a number of failures at a number of different levels.

oldpotatoe 08-18-2017 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by seanile (Post 2221356)
update:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...-japan-n793746

navy is disciplining the personnel

Not just being relieved but also "Captain's Mast'/NJP for the CO and XO and senior enlisted and a 'dozen' others. Non judicial punishment..basically standing tall before a senior guy(probably the Commodore of the ship's battle group) and taking the punishment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-judicial_punishment

BUT I'm sure they could request Court Martial also..a judge and jury gig. yikes.
Spell check..yikes again.

Ken Robb 08-18-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by oldpotatoe (Post 2221381)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-judicial_punishment

BUT I'm sure they could request Court Marshall also..a judge and jury gig. yikes.

Who would be the court "marshall"? :D

oldpotatoe 08-18-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Robb (Post 2221479)
Who would be the court "marshall"? :D

:help: bit by spell check again

rallizes 08-20-2017 08:35 PM

Ten US sailors missing after destroyer USS John S McCain collides with oil tanker https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other

What the hell

oldpotatoe 08-21-2017 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rallizes (Post 2222445)
Ten US sailors missing after destroyer USS John S McCain collides with oil tanker https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e_iOSApp_Other

What the hell

Crowded where they were...waiting for the good Captain to chime in..seems the oiler rammed the USNavy ship..bow to port side amidships. Burden on the USN ship Captain to prove he wasn't at fault..

weisan 08-21-2017 06:43 AM

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/image...e-waters-1.jpg

smontanaro 08-25-2017 07:57 AM

Interesting article in Ars Technica about the Navy's recent spate of collisions:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017...-shortcomings/

Fatty 08-25-2017 10:00 AM

[QUOTE=smontanaro;2224557]Interesting article in Ars Technica about the Navy's recent spate of collisions:

I didn't read that particular article but is it referring to the possibility that the navigation or GPS systems on board may have been hacked? Maybe time to go old school and post a watch up in a crows nest.


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