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jambee 08-25-2020 09:02 AM

FS: Independent Fabrication Crown Jewel Ti Frameset
 
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Up for sale is my Independent Fabrication Crown Jewel Titanium frameset.

This is a hand-made in Massachusetts U.S.A., custom titanium road frameset with rim brakes (#SaveTheRimeBrake).

The frameset weights 2040 grams with Chris King 1 1/18 headset and seat collar.

I am the second owner. And have ridden it 1816.2 km according to Strava. It has not been ridden in 4 years now. It was bought on the forum.

The build sheet and many pictures are available here.

Specs
Fork:
Edge Road Carbon. Edge change their name to Enve on September 1 2010.
Headset:
Chris King Sotto Voce 1 1/8 NoThreadSet Headset

Geometry:
Standover: 84.4cm
Top tube: 54.7cm
Seat Tube: 56cm.
Headtube angle: 72.5 degrees
Seattube angle: 73.6 degrees
Headtube length: 21.9cm.


https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...48dc3db2_b.jpg

Shipping

Happy to ship in Europe (the frameset is in Germany) right away.

For North America, i can ship after December 6 from California.

Suggested Price: $1350 +shipping (happy to discuss alternatives)

Loads of pictures of how it was built here: here.

AllesWirdGut 09-07-2020 11:38 AM

Bump for a beautiful bike and a great seller!

happycampyer 09-07-2020 11:48 AM

Mr.President! Mr.President!

R3awak3n 09-07-2020 12:39 PM

this thing is just perfect.

n_maher 09-07-2020 12:56 PM

Not trying to nit pick but why do you have this listed as a 57/58 when the top tube is a shade under 55 and the seat tube a 56? Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something but I fear you are missing your target audience listing the bike this way. Beautiful bike regardless.

mdeeds71 09-07-2020 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n_maher (Post 2790042)
Not trying to nit pick but why do you have this listed as a 57/58 when the top tube is a shade under 55 and the seat tube a 56? Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something but I fear you are missing your target audience listing the bike this way. Beautiful bike regardless.

I agree, being currently in Europe (Stuttgart Germany) and interested. Once I read the geometry it pretty much deflated my enthusiasm. Really wish it was a 57 to 58 TT.

A great bike none the less!

jtbadge 09-07-2020 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n_maher (Post 2790042)
Not trying to nit pick but why do you have this listed as a 57/58 when the top tube is a shade under 55 and the seat tube a 56? Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something but I fear you are missing your target audience listing the bike this way. Beautiful bike regardless.

When your "55cm" bike is taller than most 60cm bikes, what do you call it?

adrien 09-08-2020 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtbadge (Post 2790088)
When your "55cm" bike is taller than most 60cm bikes, what do you call it?

It is a little tall, as most who ride a saddle at close to 80 will look for something closer to a 57-59 top tube.

Maybe list both top tube and seat tube -- like 55 x 56?

Jeff N. 09-08-2020 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtbadge (Post 2790088)
When your "55cm" bike is taller than most 60cm bikes, what do you call it?

Strange numbers.

ColonelJLloyd 09-08-2020 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrien (Post 2790544)
It is a little tall, as most who ride a saddle at close to 80 will look for something closer to a 57-59 top tube.

One has to take the geometry as a whole into consideration. With a ST angle of 73.6 and HT angle of 72.5 the top tube measurement reads short and is not a good indicator of fit/size on it's own, which is probably why OP didn't use it (to his credit).

Stack and reach are something like 620/365.

jambee 10-14-2020 07:25 AM

Good points about the geometry. It is a custom bike which was designed for someone who looks like me.

I'm 193cm tall. I have short legs and I don't like to bend too much.

So take a look at the standover - you need to be a certain height to throw your leg over the top tube. You then have a massive head tube which means that you don't have to bend too much.

If you see the stack and reach you'd see that this bike is "like" a traditional 57/58 frame.

I'm also happy to entertain proposals!

jambee 10-14-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ColonelJLloyd (Post 2790567)
One has to take the geometry as a whole into consideration. With a ST angle of 73.6 and HT angle of 72.5 the top tube measurement reads short and is not a good indicator of fit/size on it's own, which is probably why OP didn't use it (to his credit).

Stack and reach are something like 620/365.


You are too kind Colonel! My Seven has a similar geometry with seat tube at 54cm top tube at 55.4 seat tube angle at 73 and head tube at 72.5! The front center is around 58.5cm then....hardly a 54cm bike, especially not with a head tube at 18cm and stand over at 83.5cm :).

The beauty of custom bikes!

jambee 10-17-2020 08:56 AM

And this one really needs a new owner. Open for suggestions!

jambee 10-20-2020 02:31 AM

Still looking for a new home. Offers are welcomed.

jambee 11-24-2021 01:18 PM

Updated. Parts are sold off. Frameset looking for a new rider.

jambee 11-25-2021 02:24 AM

Happy thanksgiving all!

RichTheRoadie 11-25-2021 03:09 AM

The *one* time where I find myself wishing the head tube on a 55ish top tube'd frame was shorter! Oh well...

jambee 11-25-2021 03:20 AM

hahahah! Good one!

The custom frame was designed for someone who does not like to bend too much. If you can get your legs over the standover and the reach is OK, you should be fine on the frame.

RichTheRoadie 11-25-2021 03:24 AM

If it were a 17-19cm head tube it’d be perfect, but over 20cm is too tall.

robt57 11-25-2021 11:00 AM

That bike/frame should look wonky by the numbers in my mind, but looks great!

There should be more which the fit could be appropriate among PL rider/non-racers that not I figure.

jambee 11-26-2021 04:41 AM

You are correct about looking at the numbers only. You have to take the angles into account and then it start to make a lot of sense.

The original intention was to build a road bike that does not require a big drop from seat to handlebar. See how it looks built up. Classy and comfortable and super light.

The build came up to 8.05kg as shown here. Almost no carbon what so ever.


https://live.staticflickr.com/5831/2...14fec98a_c.jpg

Maiden Voyage by Jambi, on Flickr

jambee 11-28-2021 11:22 AM

Bringing this up for the Sunday crowd. Price has some flexibility. Such a nice frameset hanging out in my flat makes no sense.

jambee 11-29-2021 02:17 PM

Weekends go fast these days. Happy Monday bump.

jambee 12-01-2021 03:23 AM

Mid week bump.

LouDeeter 12-01-2021 05:19 AM

I'm in the group that is wondering about the geometry. If you are 6'3" or thereabouts, with short legs, why in the world would you need a bike with such a short top tube? I get the seat tube and saddle height listed, but you should be riding a bike with much longer top tube I would think. I'm 5'7" and could actually ride this bike given the top tube, although there wouldn't be a lot of seat post showing and standover might be a bit painful if I had to stop suddenly. Are you running a 140 stem or something like that to compensate for the top tube?

jambee 12-01-2021 06:24 AM

Good questions!

The reason that for a "tall-ish" person this bike is interesting is if said tall person has a back problem and does not want/can not bend too much. The short TT allows you to sit pretty straight.

A shorter torso with long lets is just as well a great candidate for the bike. If you can handle the standover, this will be amazing bike.

That's the great thing about custom bikes after all.

jambee 12-02-2021 03:20 AM

The weekend is in sight!

Smitty2k1 12-02-2021 08:50 AM

What's your saddle height in the photos?

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jambee 12-02-2021 12:32 PM

@Smitty2k1 it is set to be 77cm from the middle of the bottom bracket.

jambee 12-03-2021 03:16 AM

Happy Friday!

jambee 12-06-2021 01:44 PM

The frame is in California now. Lets find it a home in the U.S.

jambee 12-07-2021 11:29 AM

Twice great on Tuesday.

jambee 12-08-2021 11:01 AM

Bump up and price reduction.

jambee 12-09-2021 09:24 AM

Can you smell the weekend?

jambee 12-29-2021 06:28 AM

Bike is in Sunnyvale, CA, looking for a rider.

kiwisimon 12-29-2021 08:11 AM

what is the fattest tire that can fit in there?

jambee 12-29-2021 08:25 AM

I rode it with 28mm tires on HED Belgium rims. There blew up to about 29-30mm.


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