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luisarroyojr 07-19-2016 09:14 AM

I have one
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver1850 (Post 1024861)
If anyone knows of someone with a model not listed, please prod him/her to post the serial code.

79 54 00268

I was told what this serial means but I'm not sure of the possible value.

oliver1850 07-19-2016 11:14 AM

Post a pic and whatever you can tell us about the bike.

steel099 07-26-2016 04:12 PM

Serotta ID
 
Hi all,
A friend of mine inherited a Serotta and asked me to help sell it as she knows nothing about bikes. I read through this thread but can't find a serial number that matches the one on the bike.

It is: CCN 52 031

From previous posts I am assuming this is custom made, size 52, but could not find what model CN matches. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

oliver1850 08-01-2016 01:09 PM

We haven't identified all the codes yet. Post some pics of the frame and perhaps we can figure it out.

steel099 08-06-2016 03:38 PM

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Attached a pic of the bike and the serial number. Let me know if there any other angles that would be helpful. Thanks!

luisarroyojr 08-15-2016 06:03 PM

Need some help please on an estimated value of my Serotta
 
I have a 1979 Serotta Colorado with 54" frame in excellent condition. Trying to find out an estimated value.

Can anyone help out?

Thanks!

http://i64.tinypic.com/nbpshv.jpg.

oliver1850 08-22-2016 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by steel099 (Post 2021492)
Attached a pic of the bike and the serial number. Let me know if there any other angles that would be helpful. Thanks!

That looks to me to be a Fierte Ti from about 2005.

Sorry about the slow reply.

oliver1850 08-22-2016 10:46 PM

I'm pretty sure that's a 1992 Colorado TG. Stock color that year was red with yellow decals. I'd guess it might bring $400-500 depending on what the components are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisarroyojr (Post 2026990)
I have a 1979 Serotta Colorado with 54" frame in excellent condition. Trying to find out an estimated value.

Can anyone help out?

Thanks!

http://i64.tinypic.com/nbpshv.jpg.


steel099 08-27-2016 11:43 AM

Awesome! Thank you very much!

flying foot doc 09-30-2016 09:49 PM

Glad to join in the discussion. I've had my Serotta frame for about a year or so now. Built it up with parts from my Bianchi Infinito & added a Di2. Serial number is COS 61 1212. The name painted on the top tube is OCHO instead of Ottrott. Andy

oliver1850 10-02-2016 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flying foot doc (Post 2053151)
Glad to join in the discussion. I've had my Serotta frame for about a year or so now. Built it up with parts from my Bianchi Infinito & added a Di2. Serial number is COS 61 1212. The name painted on the top tube is OCHO instead of Ottrott. Andy

Custom 61 Ottrotts are on my want list. No idea about the name on the TT but would like to see pics. Did you retire the Infinito? A friend of mine loves his. I've ridden it but not enough to have a strong opinion.

dave thompson 10-02-2016 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flying foot doc (Post 2053151)
Glad to join in the discussion. I've had my Serotta frame for about a year or so now. Built it up with parts from my Bianchi Infinito & added a Di2. Serial number is COS 61 1212. The name painted on the top tube is OCHO instead of Ottrott. Andy

Custom Ottrotts had the paint option of having a name painted on the top tube. Maybe that's what you have.

flying foot doc 10-02-2016 10:34 PM

https://imgur.com/a/L0Nfz
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Originally Posted by dave thompson (Post 2053890)
Custom Ottrotts had the paint option of having a name painted on the top tube. Maybe that's what you have.

This is my 1st attempt at uploading to PL. hope it works. The Serotta, to me, is my Magic Carpet. Bumps and rough spots that I would have felt before just aren't there. My upgrades that I like the most are the Bontrager Carbon race lite handle bars with Fizik gel inserts the Hawk bottom bracket and Hawk wheels. There is no question at all that I am the limiting factor to this bike.

I had about 5k miles on the Infinito and this came up. Bought it, moved parts over and sold the Infiito frame thru the same source I bought the Serotta. Andy

lexlion 10-04-2016 08:14 PM

help identifying this Serotta
 
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Help me identify this bike? Just picked up this frame on ebay. The serial number is GT 56M 024. Fits a 1" headset. Titanium frame with ovalized downtube.
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oliver1850 10-07-2016 12:39 PM

Welcome, looks like a nice frame. My guess would be a GP Ti, circa 2000. There's a CX size chart in the 2000 catalog that shows the 56M geometry. The picture on the CX page in the catalog is of a GP/DKS, which adds rear suspension to your frame. Stock fork at the time was a Kinesis AL.

oliver1850 01-04-2017 04:40 PM

Legend Ti serial number
 
Just noting that an ebay seller has listed his 2002 Legend, custom built for him. Serial number is CTI 59 04221. May be of help to someone that wants to pin down the year of their Legend.

farmallguy 05-26-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by oliver1850 (Post 2102842)
Just noting that an ebay seller has listed his 2002 Legend, custom built for him. Serial number is CTI 59 04221. May be of help to someone that wants to pin down the year of their Legend.

Thanks, my Legend is #4095 so that makes it a 2001 or 2002 probably.

My CSI is CS 52 749 and the person I just bought it from said it was a 1996 model which is confirmed by some numbers I have seen on here and the Pearl White paint.

My Colorado III is CC 54 244 and I have a copy of the original order from a bike shop dated 2001.

My Ottrott is OS 54 1342 and I was told it was a 2010 but have not confirmed that.

oliver1850 06-05-2017 10:33 AM

Thanks for posting. Always nice to get a serial number tied to an original sale date.



Now can you tell me what to ask for a '52 Super M?

recarcar 07-03-2017 05:55 PM

Anyone have any idea of what the model might be of a 90's Ti Serotta with a serial number starting in TM?

Arizbear 07-04-2017 12:16 AM

Serotta Davis Phinney
 
I have a Serotta that has serial SD57131. I am assuming that this is a Davis Phinney in a 57cm size but am a little confused because the bike has straight chain stays, not like the curved stays as mentioned in the catalogs. Sizing matches the 1989 Serotta Catalog with the 57.6 cm top tube. Anyone have any other information they can share?

logan70389 07-06-2017 09:57 AM

Serrota Fierte TI
 
I have a Serrota Fierte TI serial number 919. Does anyone have a serial number close to this that would identify the year? The bike has Fulcrum wheels - I noticed some years had Easton and some had Fulcrum.
Thanks
Tom

dave thompson 07-06-2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by logan70389 (Post 2199333)
I have a Serrota Fierte TI serial number 919. Does anyone have a serial number close to this that would identify the year? The bike has Fulcrum wheels - I noticed some years had Easton and some had Fulcrum.
Thanks
Tom

I can't speak to the year of your bike but more often than not the customer either spec'd the wheels of their choice or purchased just the frameset and built it with their chosen components.

logan70389 07-06-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dave thompson (Post 2199386)
I can't speak to the year of your bike but more often than not the customer either spec'd the wheels of their choice or purchased just the frameset and built it with their chosen components.

Ah - that makes sense. I was simply going by the catalogs i found here.
Thanks

dino3 07-09-2017 03:04 AM

Coors light team bikes
 
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Roberto Gaggioli , Dura-Ace bike.

dino3 07-09-2017 03:09 AM

Coors light team bike
 
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Dave Mann's bike. Campagnolo equipt (number peg rusted off!) C 59 0008 ?

dino3 07-09-2017 03:21 AM

Latest ride ottrott
 
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Upgraded campagnolo 11speed,fulcrum wheels cos 54 1374

oliver1850 07-13-2017 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by recarcar (Post 2198240)
Anyone have any idea of what the model might be of a 90's Ti Serotta with a serial number starting in TM?

Perhaps we can sort it out with some photos. There weren't very many titanium models in the 90s, 1994 catalog shows only the Legend Ti and the ATi MTB.

oliver1850 07-13-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizbear (Post 2198323)
I have a Serotta that has serial SD57131. I am assuming that this is a Davis Phinney in a 57cm size but am a little confused because the bike has straight chain stays, not like the curved stays as mentioned in the catalogs. Sizing matches the 1989 Serotta Catalog with the 57.6 cm top tube. Anyone have any other information they can share?

Sounds like a Phinney based on the serial number. Pic of the stays? Best from above/behind without the wheel.

hamsandwich 07-17-2017 01:52 PM

CSI ti help
 
I have what is tagged as a csi Colorado concept ti bike. The serial number however does not seem to match any coding on this forum. The number is I60L670. Any help is appreciated

oliver1850 07-25-2017 01:53 PM

Are you sure it's not TI60L670? That would be consistent with a Colorado Ti or Legend. Pics of bike would help with the ID.

TiTobi 07-25-2017 03:17 PM

Serotta Colorado Legend TI55L00216
 
Hi, I have a Colorado Legend TI , frame number TI55L00216, and i would like to find out which year it was manufactured.
With my Investigation here in this thread, I found out, that is has to be made before 1997.
Can anyone help?

That would be great.

Many Greetings from Germany

Tobias

https://fthumb.mtb-news.de/cache/117...bmFsLmpwZw.jpg

Keith A 07-25-2017 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiTobi (Post 2209067)
Hi, I have a Colorado Legend TI , frame number TI55L00216, and i would like to find out which year it was manufactured.
With my Investigation here in this thread, I found out, that is has to be made before 1997.
Can anyone help?

That would be great.

Many Greetings from Germany

Tobias

My guess is that is it from 1994. The ones from '95 on had a seatpost clamp rather than a bolt like yours has. The Ti frames pictured in the '94 catalog have the seatpost bolt like yours. BTW, Serotta's were always a little fluid with the models they had available for each year, and not like the bigger bike manufacturers that had distinct model configurations each year. So it can be difficult to determine exactly which year a bike was built.

However, I can tell you that this was the 216th "Ti" frame built.

BTW, that's a great looking bike. I like the Time fork on there.

oliver1850 07-26-2017 01:52 PM

Tobias, that's a 1993, the first year for Titanium Serottas. In 1994 the model name changed to Colorado Ti. 1993 is the easiest year to identify any Serotta model, as they all had "Legend" in the name. Great looking bike. Thanks for posting, as we now know that at least 216 Ti frames were made in the first year of production.

TiTobi 07-26-2017 02:08 PM

Wow, thanks for the answer, didn´t thought that it was that early.
The frame looks absolutely timeless.

best regards

Tobias

oliver1850 07-28-2017 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TiTobi (Post 2209599)
Wow, thanks for the answer, didn´t thought that it was that early.
The frame looks absolutely timeless.

best regards

Tobias


I agree, doesn't look at all dated with your build. Thanks again for posting.

travis bickle 08-02-2017 07:04 PM

The serial number of my Colorado II is SC60 00828. I am guessing 1990. Can anyone confirm this?

oliver1850 08-03-2017 01:18 PM

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There were quite a few running changes on the Colorado II. The first ones (1989) had three top of top tube cable guides. In 1991 they went to internal TT cable routing with ports on top as standard. The catalog mentions this feature was added by popular demand, so some 1990 frames may also have had internal routing. 1989-1990 frames had fillet brazed BB joints. This was changed to a lugged joint by the end of production in 1992, but I don't know exactly when the lugs became available. 1992 frames also feature S bend chainstays. The 1991 catalog clearly shows a full lug at the TT/HT joint. Earlier frames had sort of a half lug that extended onto the top of the TT, but were fillet brazed on the bottom half of the tube. Oddly my 1992 frame (SC60 3521) features a top lug that is like a normal lug on the head tube side, but has a fillet brazed joint all the way around. Not sure how common this is on 1992 frames. I suspect they had run out of the lugs when my frame was built, as the 1992 catalog shows a full lug. Pic of 3521 TT joint below.

1991 and 1992 decals definitely lack the chevrons of the 1989 bikes. I am unsure about 1990. I believe the catalog Keith listed as 1989 is actually the 1990 catalog. That catalog still features the chevron decals. But with the lead time for producing the catalog, the decision to eliminate the chevrons may not have been made yet. I have Colorado II serial number SC59 0432. My guess based on the serial number is that it was produced in 1990. It lacks the chevrons. It has internal rear brake cable routing.

Given that we know at least 3521 Colorado IIs were produced from 1990-1992, yearly production must have been in the 1200 range. Seems likely your frame is a 1990.

hamsandwich 08-06-2017 02:35 PM

Serotta pics
 
There does not appear to be any marks prior to the I. I'm not the most computer savvy for attaching photos. The icon above asks for the address. Is there a way to insert a photo from my phone?

oliver1850 08-07-2017 12:35 PM

I've never logged in here from the phone but I'm pretty sure lots of people post pics from their phones. If you can't figure it out, try using Tapatalk.

fatboyinva 09-02-2017 08:51 AM

Two additional models
 
Hello,

Serotta Spier Falls Ti MTB aa=S2
Serotta GP Suisse Steel CycloCross aa=GX

thanks,
james


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