list of comfort / sport geometry frames
I'm thinking of a new frame designed around a more upright position but still a fast machine.
Here is the list I've got so far, any other would be appreciated. -Fierte -Specialized Roubaix -Trek Pilot -Gunnar Sport -Custom of course (Strong, Curtlo, Desalvo top of list) thanks |
That pretty much describes all the Rivendell models, and the Tournesol customs as well.
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Rivendell Rambouillet
Rivendell Romulus/Redwood Rivendell Saluki (650B) Rivendell/QBP Bleriot (650B, not yet available) Kogswell (is it the model P?) all of the above are lugged steel |
Double Post.
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Giant OCR Models.
Kind of in the middle but the Titus Modena uses a traditional headset that gives it about a 20mm taller headtube than the Trek and Specialized race bikes. Additionally it has 415 chainstays which are 5-8mm longer than most race bikes. This gives you a bike between the newer comfort models and the "traditional" race geometry bikes. Keep in mind when looking at headtube lengths that you need to add 20-25mm to an integrated headtube to end up with the same length as a traditional press in headset. (Headset stack for integrated is approx 8mm, stack for a traditional press in is appox 30mm). |
I'm thinking for myself a Riv Saluki. It just makes sense for me, as more and more of my riding is down pretty country <dirt> roads. I'll never give up my pure road bikes, because, their fun. But to just go out and meander, go anywhere and not worry about skinny tires, thin spokes, etc. Again, it just makes sense.
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Litespeed Veneto - discontinued in '05, but NOS still available. Definitely meets your criteria.
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-Fierte
-Specialized Roubaix - CIII (yes you can still get it BUT name might be different.) CUSTOM Advantage of "custom fit" is that you can have it exactly the way you want for the type ride. Another suggestion is to get sized by a good fitter and than compare the specs to the bikes/frames you are considering, PETE |
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I didn't find the Fierte to be particularly "upright", but I sure did love how it felt and handled! |
Merlin Solis
Hello Tom Kellog,
Can't tell you how many times I've thought that the Solis is the off the rack ti comfort bike of choice. Maybe the only one along with the Veneto. I've considered it many times, but just can't get past the aesthetics of the integrated headset. So many nice design touches on that bike, but the bulbous headtube completely blows it for me. I bet it rides really great too. |
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Try a sloping top tube and tell the fitter you do not want one of those short stems that races toward the sky. I agree that they present a less than stellar (fugly) picture. I have seen many of them and can only assume that the customer or builder did not like the sloping top tube solution. With threadless you have only two solutions - - One the stem or Two the sloping TT. There are no other options to get you in the more upright position.
I am not a fitter but it you put a drawing on paper you have to raise the front end to get the bars higher. This is done via (STEM), (TT slope) - - or a very high parallel to the ground TT - which could be somewhat uncomfortable if you had to get off bike in a hurry. Pete |
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Ugly head tube gone!
Eddie:
For the '06 Solis, the internal headsets are gone now. Actually, Merlin has gotten rid of all of those ugly head tubes on their Ti frames, FINALLY. The only one left is the Proteus (full carbon frame). Are they in shops yet? I don't know. Merlin has been shipping the new Works frames for some time now but I don't know if the new Solis is shipping yet. You can call your dealer and have them ask their rep if they are available. |
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There is also the option of lots of spacers on the steerer tube, which doesn't look good either to me. |
Bro I'm just a dumb bike messenger but I'd say any classic steel bike that fits would fit the bill.Cheers :beer:
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Here are a couple geometry samples for racing bikes, borrowed from
Mr. Chuck Schmidt. Bianchi Racing bikes, just like Fausto rode. The saddle was mounted well forward usually giving a steeper effective seat angle. Me, I'd take a Legend Ti in the 1950 geo, wonder if Serotta could do Paris-Roubaix dropouts ? Scott G. 1939 Bianchi #718923-0 (c to c) Seat Tube -- 54.0cm Top Tube -- 58.0cm BB drop -- 8.0cm Chain Stay -- 46.0cm Wheel base -- 110.0cm Seat Tube < -- 71.5° Head Tube < -- 70.0° Fork Rake -- 8.0cm Trail -- 4.0cm* *wheel dia. 68.5cm 1950 Bianchi Folgorissima #287197 (P-R derailleur) (c to c) Seat Tube -- 57.0cm Top Tube -- 57.0cm BB drop -- 8.2cm Chain Stay -- 45.0cm Wheel base -- 104.0cm Seat Tube < -- 73.00° Head Tube < -- 74.25° Fork Rake -- 6.0cm Trail -- 3.4cm* *wheel dia. 68.5cm |
IMO, the Gunnar is the best sport bike on you list. I would also add these two bikes as well
Cannondale Synapse - Great for racing, more upright and very comfortable Kelly Bone Stock - steel, inexpensive, upright and can be used for racing :bike: |
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Soma Smoothie ES
is another I came across if anyone else is following this thread. |
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