pegorichie dreams
what kind of sorcery is this?
rides like a dream. so springy, so jumpy, so suave. feels like a natural extension of my legs. i am smitten. anyone else in the same boat? why have i not ridden these tubes before?! https://i.imgur.com/4erGez4.jpg |
For all of the advancements in frame materials, to me a nicely built bike of light steel tubing still *feels* the best to me...(nice looking bike, BTW)
|
Steel is real. nice bike. Whats that on the top tube?
|
i pretty sure they make up a part of the Goodrich i roll. And if that is the case, yes, magic. and your bike is rad, i saw a scarab recently on a festka post with Melody Farms...
|
Huh. My instagram world and my paceline world collide..
|
My Zank is Pegorichie, one of the first. The ride and handling are incredible.
I've updated the drivetrain over the years. https://photos.smugmug.com/Cycling/T..._194632-X2.jpg |
pretty sure my steel zank is pegorichie also. it is indeed a nice riding bike.
|
Help a brotha: what does Pegorichie mean? I've got a hunch but need the facts
|
Quote:
|
I think my steel Zanconato is also PegoRichie tubes and yeah, it's a pretty nice bike too. Here pictured with some Ergott-built wheels, which have been extremely nice as well and fit this bike perfectly.
Crappy picture, but you get the idea. Like Eric's, mine has evolved over the years on the build as well. Not flashy, but this 105 stuff is hard to beat for performance and value. https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1906/4...f6e8b34e_c.jpg |
1 Attachment(s)
Quote:
From the Richard Sachs site: "As professional cycle racing came to be dominated by carbon-fibre, a new wave of craftsmen framebuilders appeared on the scene. Those wishing to work with steel tubes and lugs found that building frames to modern performance standards was difficult, largely due to lack of suitable materials and tube profiles. Doyens of this band of constructeurs, Dario Pegoretti and Richard Sachs, worked with Colombus to develop what became known as PegoRichie tubing – Spirit (Columbus’ premier ferrous tubeset) for lugs. Oversize round tubes and long butt profiles made PegoRichie a favourite of craftsmen builders worldwide. Now, with oversize profiles in ultra-high tensile materials – Spirit and XCR – steel can compete with any other frame material – aluminium, titanium, carbon-fibre." http://richardsachscyclocross.com/sp.../columbus.html |
Yeah, my pegorichie sachs was the best steel bike I ever had. So smooth.
|
It's Columbus Spirit with different profiles and dimensions.
|
Quote:
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat.../_DSC0401_.jpg |
Brand
Quote:
|
I had a Zanconato with Pegorichie tubing a few years back; most of my PRs were set on that bike. Granted I was also a bit fitter back then, but nonetheless that bike rocked.
|
Re:
Quote:
Looks like they are in Colombia... nice looking bikes. https://scarabcycles.com/ |
Quote:
|
Quote:
It’s a new builder, based outside of Medellin. |
Quote:
|
A Colombian custom bike company?? That´s freakking cool.
I am in south america and usually commute through Bogota´s airport. My experience w/ colombians is wonderfull. They are deep into cycling w/ legendary climbers. Girls and boys ride the mountains all the time on beautifull gear. |
Quote:
Thread should be renamed pegorichie reality. |
1 Attachment(s)
http://2012.handmadebicycleshow.com/...-man-of-steel/
I've got a frame made with the PegoRichie Uber OS tubes and special lugs, with the matching fork with flat fork crown. Very nice. Above is a link that tells about the set. |
Yes my pegorichie Sachs is a very noticeable difference from my Peg Marcelo, and your description is spot on with my perception.
|
Quote:
And, yes, Pegorichie tubes are awesome. I have two steel bikes with them and they're both keepers. |
wrong window, sorry
|
Quote:
|
Maybe this is heresy, but I don't think you can feel any difference between high end steel tube sets. I say high end, because you need that tensile strength with lightweight tubing. So, Reynolds 853 or 953, Dedacciai Zero, Columbus Spirit etc will all behave the same. The builder can make some difference in how they select gauges, angles, butt lengths, etc.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
Venerable bikes like Masi GC and Cinelli Supercorsa used both 531 and Columbus on different frames. I just don't think one brand of tube set is superior to another. |
Superior is a misleading way of looking at it I think.
One particular tubeset may be better suited for a particular purpose than another. Many steel builders would use a different tubeset for a 230 pound rider than a 160 pound rider, so in that example, one tubeset may well be 'superior." I have a Kirk cross bike that Dave built for himself and used a specially spec'd set of chainstays. Builders often mix tubes from different sets. Look at the Merckx MXL bikes - they're not 100% MAX tubing. Apparently the custom builders think that particular tubes of particular tubesets or entire sets are superior to others when they are building bikes. And indeed in this case you have Mr. Pegoretti and Mr. Sachs going to Columbus and saying, hey, we need a better lightweight tubeset for lugged frame construction and this was the result. Followed by Uber PegoRichie tubes for larger frames/riders purposes. Quote:
|
Quote:
http://www.habcycles.com/m7.html |
The way I set up my bikes is much more important than the steel in the tubes. I do like to know that I'm riding a bike with top end equipment, be it the tubes, the build, or the parts. But, in the end, it is whether I'm comfortable in the long haul that is important and that has come from many decades of experimentation for my specific set up markers.
|
Quote:
Quote:
Why did you guys ever get rid of them?!?! :) Pretty sure this bike will be in my will: https://i.postimg.cc/pdG6VX6s/Pier-i...psztgb5ugx.jpg |
Quote:
|
I kept my Sachs 8 or 9 years I think. It was not ridden any more. I can't stand having bikes that are not ridden, in particular great bikes.
|
Quote:
|
Quote:
I am now riding a stainless steel frame with Columbus XCR tubing; it feels very similar to the Zank with PegoRitchie tubing. |
My Rick Jones is Pegorichie tubing. Even coming from a skinny tubed thinwall planing-ophile, I think it has a fantastic ride quality.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7867/...a00be923_c.jpg |
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:02 AM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.