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Originally Posted by zmalwo (Post 2593206)

I believe the levers are closer to the bars at any given hood angle right?

The small hands feature stops the lever from fully releasing, so it's closer to the bars.

More info has been posted on the weight weenies website about sram and campy 12 compatibility. A bike with Campy eps 12 was tested with a sram 12 cassette and campy chain and it worked well, including the shift to the 10 tooth sprocket.

Very helpful thread...just decided to go Record 12 on my Seven Axiom build, rather than stay with my vintage Record 10 Compact goodies... :)

That was some time ago. In 2020 I switched to SRAM Force AXS on my Colnago rim brake bikes, them on to disc frames, later that year. No regrets on the switch to wireless electronic shifting.

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 3345208)

That was some time ago. In 2020 I switched to SRAM Force AXS on my Colnago rim brake bikes, them on to disc frames, layer that year. No regrets on the switch to wireless electronic shifting.

I know. I'm living in the past. :)

Can only say I LOVE Camp Chorus 12....Feels crisp and seems maintenence free....rarely do I ever have to adjust anything.....Had it put on a year and a half ago and never even experienced any cable stretch. Running a 52/36 I think? But all that is personal preference.

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Originally Posted by jtbadge (Post 2592327)

If your hubs are Chris King, they won't take 12s.

They sell the 12 speed freehub now.

Also, you can get an extra 15% off right now that puts chorus around $1k here

Just curious what the duty situation and costs from Merlin the US might be.

I have pre 2015 Chorus and SR/Ti-Cult. I can't imagine SR12 shifting better, or anything cabled for that matter.

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Originally Posted by robt57 (Post 3345260)

Just curious what the duty situation and costs from Merlin the US might be.

I have pre 2015 Chorus and SR/Ti-Cult. I can't imagine SR12 shifting better, or anything cabled for that matter.

When I ordered my Record 12s mech group from Merlin back in 2019 it came directly to my house with no duty costs involved. From what I have read this is normally what happens. Maybe larger things like frames and wheels incur the extra cost.

Tim

I have a couple of sets of older Campy Eurus and Mavic Ksyrium SSC wheelsets that currently have 10 speed cassettes. Any issue in running Campy 12 speed cassettes on these older wheels?

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Originally Posted by climbgdh (Post 2591991)

3 of my bikes are outfitted with Campy 10s but I’m looking to “upgrade” to 11s or 12s on at least one of my rigs through the next couple of months. There are no issues with my 10s gear...... just looking for some newer shifty bits and selling my 10s gear here on PL. A few questions:

- i know 11s cassettes work with no issue on any of my 10s FHB’s but is the same also true for 12s?
- most of my stuff right now is either Record or Chorus and I’d probably be sticking with the same on this upgrade. 12s so far has only been available as Record or SR but looking on the Campy website it looks like Chorus is also available as 12s now..... maybe that’s new recently?
- any experience on 12s versus 11s on functionality and longevity? I don’t swap components or upgrade a whole bunch so looking for something with a LONG life. the 10s stuff has been flawless in that department.

Any comments appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Haven't read the whole thread...apologies if dups.
-If the free hub body is 11s compatible, it's 12s compatible

-12s is SuperRecord/Record and Chorus..all introduced at the same time.

-Shift innards essentially the same as 11s..just new spool, shift disc...Function is identical to 11s, with another gear. NO shift springs to wear or break in 11s or 12s...that was often an issue with 10s..BUT, the 'future' for Campag is 12s..get 12s stuff.

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Originally Posted by C40_guy (Post 3345336)

I have a couple of sets of older Campy Eurus and Mavic Ksyrium SSC wheelsets that currently have 10 speed cassettes. Any issue in running Campy 12 speed cassettes on these older wheels?

I have not had an issue running 12spd on 9,10,11spd freehubs, but I am not sure if all of them are compatible?

12S front derailleur available in braze on only? (Buy appropriate clamp separately...)

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Originally Posted by C40_guy (Post 3345336)

I have a couple of sets of older Campy Eurus and Mavic Ksyrium SSC wheelsets that currently have 10 speed cassettes. Any issue in running Campy 12 speed cassettes on these older wheels?

For sure the Eurus are worthless now and you might as well chuck 'em. I'll give ya $10 a set. ;);)

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Originally Posted by jamesdak (Post 3345355)

For sure the Eurus are worthless now and you might as well chuck 'em. I'll give ya $10 a set. ;);)

Probably not worth $10. I would be embarrassed to take more than $8 per set, and that includes wheelbags.

:)